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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: LLCF who wrote (27664)	10/15/2009 5:02:58 AM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

<You said: "Greg claims to have it all figured out."> "you keep claiming everyting is very simple and obvious... yet it's not... Some things are simple and obvious like the irrationality of believing in an impersonal person. Others are not. To say (as you did) that: "Greg claims to have it (the Trinity) all figured out." is to grossly misrepresent my position. In fact it nothing but a cheap shot that reveals the immaturity of your thoughts and actions. < It was something to the effect that as long as you did not embrace a personal God like the one of Christianity that you were considered an atheist who just didn't realize it. > "Probably why I let it 'whistle'... just another "judgement" by you as to "personal God". Meaningless drivel." They weren't my words. “If what you hold sacred is not any kind of Person you could pray to, or consider to be an appropriate recipient of gratitude (or anger, when a loved one is senselessly killed), you're an atheist in my book,” writes Dennett. “If, for reasons of loyalty to tradition, diplomacy, or self-protective camouflage (very important today, especially for politicians), you want to deny what you are, that's your business, but don't kid yourself.”[1] (Daniel Dennett) Message 25985596 <I suppose that if you believe that god is everything then it's easy to see how "it" is everywhere but I digress. > "God is everywhere... people are not." Oh: so do you have that "all figured out"? If god is everything and a human person is a thing, then people are god. Further: if god is everywhere and people are god then people are everywhere too. The logic is inescapable. Of course the assumption that God is everything is unproven and highly dubious. "since "everything" has been shown by physics to be practically nothing but open space... it's obvious that God is everywhere and everything as far as the common definition goes." First: that does not follow logically at all. Second: "God is everywhere and everything" That may be the definition common to New age Pantheists like Eckhart Tolle and Oprah, but it has little to do with a Christian concept of God. The Christian God transcends the creation with the exception of the incarnation. God is recognized as the Creator and sustainer of the universe, but God is not identified with the created order in the way you suggest. <God is a person, maybe more>... "LOL, gee I wonder where?" You are just trying to use that out of context quote to take the focus off your own equivocation and deliberate distortion of what I said in regards to God reveling Himself partly through the bible.