To: Greg or e who wrote (27668 ) 10/15/2009 4:21:42 PM From: LLCF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931 <Well laugh at yourself, because you are the one who sits in a Church and recites the Apostles Creed, but doesn't believe any of it.> Naw... I don't have a problem with that... well, the virgin Mary thing is a bit silly IMHO, but lot's of Christians think that as well. Further I notice your "person" is missing, in favor of the mysterious "Holy Trinity"... huh, imagine that. <He's {Dennet} making the same point about you, that I am.> Well, sure... you're both "material redutionists". <That in denying that God is a personal being you are essentially an Atheist > Did HE define "personal God"?... maybe you can borrow his definiton.? Interesting statement by him, which is pretty much what I've said in the past, to be an atheist you have to define the God you're "atheist" toward. I can tell you 1000% I'm atheist towards your little white haired man that pulls strings for a living... and yet am completely comforable in the Catholic Church... a refuge from the WackoReligionists that think they have a "personal pipeline" to the truth. Dangerous sort. <Yes He is but that's not what you asserted as the "common definition" is it? > Of course it is...omnipresent god? Everyone knows that! And it's completely and obviously defined as opposed to your 'personal God' which has been debated, written, and re-written, and rewritten about since someone made it up:newadvent.org Schag through that and report back. <As I already pointed out to you the Christian God is the personal Creator and sustainer of the physical universe who entered this created universe at the incarnation in order to redeem it. Personal creator? Better read the creed again... but Yes "sustainer" because God is everywhere, substrate of everyting. <If every "THING" in the universe disappeared God would still be.> Sure, like I said, 'substrate'.. further all "things" are essentially empty space. God is there too of course... unless you're not a Christian by your definiton. Better brush up on your physics. :)) DAK