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To: Alighieri who wrote (521461)	10/18/2009 11:44:05 AM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578427

>> Yeah, well, my point is that his entire business is constructed on a house of lies and distortions.. As Tim clearly showed, at least WRT the particular passage in question, the "lies and distortions" claim is totally at odds with the facts. Then he goes on to point out that you guys are using the term "lie" as kind of catch-all to refer to legitimate disagreements, mistakes, and all manner of statements that you don't agree with. For something to be "lies and distortions" there must be an intent to deceive and you guys have not been able to show that Limbaugh has said anything that remotely suggests such an intent. John had every opportunity to back up his claim of Limbaugh lies, and he failed to come up with anything at all. I appreciate Tim taking the time to refute his claims. Instead of calling people "liars" why not just say, "I disagree."? Reserve the term liar for actual, provable lies. Then it has the desired effect. I used the term frequently to refer to Clinton, but in the context only of actual, proven lies -- as when he gave his "solemn oath" that if elected governor he would not run for president, then claiming the people of Arkansas "released him" from that oath. That was a lie. The Monica situation was obviously a lie. But you guys use "lie" to refer to GWB's argument for going to war with Iraq, and there is not evidence of a single lie that I've ever seen. There are mistakes, there are disagreements, but I've never seen anything that could be called a lie. Yet, you guys [the left] have used the term extensively. Obama has lied. Provable, outright lies. But more frequently, he has just had intentions that didn't work out as planned. I could say his operatives "lied" all morning this morning with their claims about the situation that was "inherited" from GWB -- that would have as much credibility as your claims against Limbaugh. But these are legitimate differences of opinion.