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To: SARMAN who wrote (19660)10/20/2009 1:38:16 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie10 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
The part that I find the most silly is that 1.6 billion Arabs blame approximately 14 million jews (worldwide) and a miniscule country (approximately 8000mi^2) for all of their problems.
ROFLOL, Thanks for proving my point. The book that you are reading from, is outdated. You should call your Zionist chapter and request a new one.

Which part is inaccurate? Are you claiming there are less than 1.6Billion Muslims (I did mean to say "muslim" vs "arabs") or that there are more than 14 million jews? or the part that Muslims have a problem with the mere existence of jews that goes back long before the 20th century?

1. Israelis kill Arabs. Well yes, and Arabs kill Israelis.
Let see, European Jews came to Palestine, ethnic cleanse the natives and you expect no resistance? What is the ratio to Palestinians killed and Israelis killed 1000:1. You must read the self-hating Jew's report that accused Israel of crimes against humanity. Of course all the Zionists see Judge Goldstone as a self-hating Jew.

Ethnically cleanse? LOL. Have you ever heard the adage "don't bring a knife to a gunfight?" Maybe the Palestinians should think about that the next time they are aggressive toward Israel. Maybe then the kill ratio would be different.

2. Israel Stealing Land - Prove it.
A picture worth a thousand words.


The UN partition was an action taken by the UN (hence the name). The Jews didn't steal the land then. And subsequent changes were due to palestinian aggressions. Oops, back to the knife to gunfight analogy. And if we are going to go back in time, the land was stolen from the Jews first...several times. I prefer to look at the recent past rather than history, but if you want to show stuff that happened before most living jews and palestinians were born, than why not go back a couple hundred...or thousand years?

3. Israelis Exploit Holocaust Victims - Prove it.
How many Billions of dollars did Germany pay Israel as retribution? Yes Israel, not the survivor of the Holocaust. Read Bibi's speech to UN.
British MP: Israel exploiting Holocaust
ynetnews.com
This is coming from a self-hating Jew son of Holocaust survivors.
All Zionists have to do is guilt the World with the Holocaust.

I didn't see anything in that link that supported your argument.

If you love Israel so much, why aren't living there?
Because you know that the land will one day go back to its rightful owners


I don't love Israel anymore than I love England or France or Switzerland. But I do think they are the USA's only friend in the middle east. Even if our current administration is clearly not their friend. Also, I find that most Israelis grate on me personally. I don't live there because I am an American and not Jewish.

rightful owners depends on which historical timeslice you choose to focus on. Realistically, today there are millions of jews who were born there and it is their home, just as there are millions of palestinians who were born there and it is their home. The Israelis have repeatedly tried to come up with peace plans that border on appeasement only to have the palestinians reject them and attack them.

But going back to history, what would you have the jews who were fleeing the holocaust do? The europeans were rejecting jewish refugees. They had to go somewhere. Or maybe you think they should have just manned up and hung out in Germany and Poland???? These people were fighting for their survival. Meanwhile, the Arab world supported Hitler's actions against the jews. I'd argue that they came down on the wrong side of that war and their position made them somewhat at the mercy of the winners of that war.