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Strategies & Market Trends : The Epic American Credit and Bond Bubble Laboratory -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: prometheus1976 who wrote (105851)	10/20/2009 7:55:43 PM
From: Box-By-The-Riviera™	6 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 110194

well, w/o another passport, HK is out of the question, unless you do a series of paper companies blah blah blah. but the original transaction is going to be a trail. now of course you can legitimately still make an investment outside of the usa......and then lose all your money. but you'll be needing to convince someone, possibly, that you did in fact lose all of your money. hope you pick some good companies when you ask for certs. certs are going to be very ill liquid if you are moving in and out. and where will you keep them? anyway.. you know the story already. anything that is not cash currency, is already a form of refuge, short of the tax consequences. its really quite simple. simply do not keep your bulk, ultimately, in the wrong currency. stock is not currency. gold is not currency. land is not currency (though in usa etc.. you have local tax obligations). HK land taxes are laughably low, but these are leasehold deals, not freehold. on the other hand, 99 years seems long enough, if you are already beyond the age of one year old on your life-line. i personally think the whole thing has gotten way out of sensible. if you have 100 million dollars, that's one problem. if you have 1 million dollars, that's another problem. the two are not the same in any way. if you are 50 years old, how long do you have to play the game? 10 yrs, 15, 25, 50? or is it for your heirs? w/o a change of citizenship, you're a duck out of water no matter what. and the law says, if you do change, you are subject to cap gains for the next ten years after you renounce your citizenship... thanks to our prez and congress during dubya's reign... hidden inside a GI benefits bill. if you move to a tax treaty country... then you are subject to arrest and extradition, usa citizenship or not. you really want to do things right, simply start to disappear in every way you possibly can. that's all i got. good luck. i'm staying for the revolution. fuck these guys.