To: Suma who wrote (123323 ) 10/21/2009 9:54:33 AM From: epicure Respond to of 542152 I think we probably are what we are because of our genetics and the way we are raised- and it's probably more about nature than nurture. So I'm happy, and I am glad I am who I am, but I don't think it has much to do with being a liberal. We are probably born, not raised. My post wasn't about the value of being a liberal. I see value in both sides of the political divide- and I hold some very conservative positions (for example about raising children). There's nothing wrong, inherently, with the people who oppose us politically. Ying and yang exist everywhere, and it seems to be important to have balance. The only thing that is negative (imo) is when ying or yang decides the "other" is evil and either hunts it down to kill it, or hunts it down to torment it. IMO you ought to leave people alone if they don't want to be around you, or if they disagree with you and it's obvious nothing will be served by engagement- especially if engagement on your end or the other end will be hostile. It's not like the people here don't read. It's impossible to escape most issues, even if you wanted to. But there are people on SI who believe that free speech demands they be able to bug everyone. There's no explaining to them that this is NOT free speech, but just the ability to exercise unfettered rudeness, but there you are. Some problems are insoluble and some people are unreachable. What I think some people don't understand, or willfully pretend to ignore, is that not everyone who recognizes the political divide in American wants to hunt someone down to argue or fight about it. That difference is an unbridgeable one. There is no way to make peace if both sides do not recognize the value of peace. When you find people like that, all you can do is stay away. That's all my post was about.