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To: Activatecard who wrote (23779)	10/22/2009 11:25:32 PM
From: SG	Respond to of 71406

Kunstler lives in upstate NY in a pretty low energy lifestyle, though he makes his living jetting around and burning irreplacable hydrocarbons to tell people about peak oil. I'm sure he is aware of the irony. SG

To: Activatecard who wrote (23779)	10/23/2009 1:00:35 PM
From: benwood	Respond to of 71406

I guess I should clarify: I'm not of the belief that humans will necessarily improve anything through intervention with respect to carbon. Historically, we just make things worse. There may be more ice, but perhaps due to two billion people being wiped out. I think it's highly probably that any large scale scheme to "stop climate change" will instead impoverish millions or billions. And fossil fuel will be with us for another billion years, well past humankind's life on the planet. I never said nor implied otherwise. However, I'm still of the opinion that carbon levels will begin declining within 50 years due to availability, flow, and cost of said fossil fuel, and because economies of scale will at last bring critical mass to alternatives which create little carbon as a byproduct of manufacture or operations, and because a sustainable economy will emerges e.g. in the US of A -- by force of economics, not by design.