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To: Suma who wrote (123460)	10/23/2009 10:17:38 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 540885

I'm too young to remember MacArthur. :-) But I certainly can see the parallels with Vietnam. Funny thing is, do you remember a few years ago all the revisionist history about how we could have won the war? Crazy stuff. And as it is Vietnam has turned out quite well- just goes to show, if you let people get the ape shit craziness they want, eventually they'll decided they'd like a more moderate road, but inflicting moderation on a people when they aren't in the mood for it (I.E trying to nation build) rarely works. Baby Bush knew that before he became president and at the beginning of his presidency, but somehow he suffered massive amnesia while in office: "I don't think our troops should be used for what's called nation building." - George W. Bush, 2000 Too bad the president who made the above remark went AWOL.

To: Suma who wrote (123460)	10/24/2009 2:15:46 AM
From: Cogito	Respond to of 540885

>>I also like that Obama is being more thoughtful about what he does and not jumping at the command of the military.<< Suma - Absolutely. There is a reason the framers of our Constitution put the armed forces under civilian command. The military commanders should definitely let the President know what they need to complete their missions. But it is the President's job to decide what the overall mission should be. And of course, it's actually Congress' job to declare war. That's something I'd like to see being put into practice again. We haven't had a Constitutionally declared war since the 1940s. - Allen