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To: ChanceIs who wrote (226024)10/24/2009 12:26:45 PM
From: ChanceIsRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
Whalen - Citi, BofA Still Face Huge Losses: Bondholders Must Share Taxpayers' Pain

Posted Oct 06, 2009 07:30am EDT by Aaron Task

Big banks were back in favor Monday, thanks to a Goldman Sachs
upgrade. Meanwhile, Saudi Prince Alwaleed is imploring the U.S.
government to "exit its investments" in TARP banks, notably
Citigroup. Christopher Whalen, managing director at Institutional
Risk Analytics, takes umbrage with the Goldman upgrade, as
detailed here, and believes the Saudi Prince is missing a big
piece of the puzzle: "For investors right now, you've got to
look at large banks and remember [to ask] ‘to what degree is
government subsidy making this bank look better than it
really is?'"

The answer is "a whole lot better," especially when it comes to
Citigroup, Whalen says. Without government subsidies -- "all of
things to help Citigroup look better - the bank would be in
serious trouble," he says. "We'd be right back to where we
were at the end of 2008 in terms of investors' perspective."

If the government were to sell its stake and withdraw subsidies
for Citigroup, the bank would be forced to raise cash again in
the equity markets, Whalen continues. "The only way to do that
is if they show us how to get the cancer out and leave a viable
business behind. We're talking hundreds of billions of dollars
of bad assets that really need to be charged off."

The best way to restructure Citigroup - short of an FDIC-mandated
bankruptcy - is for bondholders to convert say one-third of their
debt into equity and "charge off the rancid assets," he says,
noting FDIC Chair Sheila Bair made similarly themed suggestions.
That would reduce the company's net interest expense dramatically,
generating free cash flow and removing solvency concerns, he says.
"The next day, I would tell all my clients to buy...because it's
clean."

Whalen says a lack of political will in Washington and the powerful
lobbying of big fixed-income houses like Pimco and BlackRock, as
well as pension funds, is preventing such an outcome.

The same story applies to Bank of America, which is "next in line
behind Citigroup in terms of financial problems and could be back
in the arms of the U.S. government by the middle of 2010,"
according to Whalen. "While the Big Media focuses on the
personalities and political problems at BAC, we instead
focus...on the rest of the story, namely the bank's festering
off-balance sheet exposure."

The problem with Bank of America and (to a less-imminent
extent) Wells Fargo is, unlike JPMorgan which acquired WaMu
after FDIC restructuring, they "still face the daunting task
of cleaning up the mess left by the troubled acquisitions of
Countrywide, Merrill Lynch and Wachovia," he writes.



To: ChanceIs who wrote (226024)10/26/2009 10:52:57 PM
From: GraceZRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
The proper solution two years ago was to break them up, wipe the stockholders, haircut the bondholders, and restructure. It still is the proper solution.


Not during this administration.

Looks like it's still open season on the regionals, I should have clarified my earlier remarks. I just can't see shorting the top eight banks because clearly the Feds are going to do whatever it takes.