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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Alan Smithee who wrote (74098)10/25/2009 6:07:19 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224733
 
My sons came home for fall break, a weekend of beer pong, one kid the next monday had a 104 fever and such. My boys had a cough for a few days, all the kids came and talked to me and shook my hand, had a cough for a few days, slight fever, aches and pains for about 10 hours then nothing.



To: Alan Smithee who wrote (74098)10/26/2009 1:37:08 AM
From: Jorj X Mckie  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224733
 
this is the second time in my life that the swine flu has been presented as something akin to anthropogenic global warming.

Deja Vu
On February 5, 1976, an army recruit at Fort Dix said he felt tired and weak. He died the next day and four of his fellow soldiers were later hospitalized. Two weeks after his death, health officials announced that swine flu was the cause of death and that this strain of flu appeared to be closely related to the strain involved in the 1918 flu pandemic. Alarmed public-health officials decided that action must be taken to head off another major pandemic, and they urged President Gerald Ford that every person in the U.S. be vaccinated for the disease. The vaccination program was plagued by delays and public relations problems, but about 24% of the population had been vaccinated by the time the program was canceled. Only one person, the Fort Dix army recruit, died from the flu (from wikipedia)

geez, reading about the 1918 outbreak, it's pretty obvious that the conditions don't exist right now that would bring about the deadlier strain (no world war).
en.wikipedia.org

And then there is the idea that since 1/3 of the world population (1.6billion) caught H1N1 that everyone was exposed to it. So:
- those who didn't catch it were likely resistant to it to start with
- those who caught it, but didn't die, just caught the flu
- those who died from it were obviously susceptible to H1N1, but they were removed from the gene pool

One conclusion is that our population is genetically predisposed to be resistant to H1N1.

And H1N1 wasn't unusually deadly until allowed to mutate in the right environment.

This is pretty basic stuff, which kinda indicates that the big brains have to know that a pandemic threat isn't going to come from a known and relatively common form of influenza.

The great majority of deaths in the 1918 flu pandemic were the result of secondary bacterial pneumonia. The influenza virus damaged the lining of the bronchial tubes and lungs of victims, allowing common bacteria from the nose and throat to infect their lungs. Subsequent pandemics have had many fewer fatalities due to the development of antibiotic medicines that can treat pneumonia.[15]
en.wikipedia.org

oh well, I guess we are back to "never let a good crisis go to waste"



To: Alan Smithee who wrote (74098)10/26/2009 2:38:23 AM
From: SmoothSail1 Recommendation  Respond to of 224733
 
It gives the administration vast powers

That's it in a nutshell.

If there isn't a crisis, create one. Take the focus off the real problems.