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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (57321)11/2/2009 3:50:34 AM
From: RJA_2 Recommendations  Respond to of 219648
 
>>And why is government medicine so bad?

This is not a Canadian system.

This is mandatory self insurance, like auto insurance.

See:

cbpp.org

The way I read this, there will be some kind premium credit up to 400% of poverty line… leaving individuals earning up to 43320 having to pay 12% of gross income for premium costs plus additional deductibles and out of pocket costs(this is for a 70% coverage policy — meaning you still pay the remaining 30%) and same for a family of 3 making up to 73240.

Above those wage limits there is no assistance (or limit on cost), and the premiums are still MANDATORY and you face penalties administered by the IRS if you decide to opt out.

To me, this is just a little too much big brother for my taste.

Add to this the 40% increase in electric bills forecast by the president of our local electric co-op (who should know his business) due to the climate change legislation, and the end of the bush tax cuts in 2011, and you are looking at a hunk of change out of pocket for most folks.

They will remember IMHO what voting for “Change” brought them, or in this case, took from them.

All that being said, it seems to me that 80% of folks are satisfied with their current coverage (at least this is the number I have seen), and rather than passing a new 2000 page bill, it might be just easier to subsidize coverage for the remaining 20%, and be done with it.

I expect this was what most folks were expecting, a kind of Social Security for medical care. They are going to be surprised at how much it will cost them, and more surprised at the penalties they will pay if they elect not to be covered.

They might also be surprised by their electric bill, especially in places where air conditioning is required to live (like in the deep south).

I understand the climate bill will also effect the cost of all other fossil fuels (including gasoline and natural gas).

So, its going to be a fight between you and the government over your wallet.

This is not a recipe to win votes.



To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (57321)11/4/2009 1:27:37 AM
From: average joe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219648
 
Sneaker the Canadian public health system is subsidized by selling generic drugs to the U.S. that it rips off from U.S. pharmaceutical companies. If you think you're getting better quality care it is only from lack of experience.