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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (74554)	11/3/2009 9:11:48 PM
From: MJ	2 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 224748

Nice, Kenneth. Thanks for the report.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (74554)	11/3/2009 9:40:44 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 224748

Dr. Tom Russo, an obstetrician from Wyckoff, said he was tired of Mr. Corzine’s attentiveness to the public-sector unions and would be voting for Mr. Christie, with relish. “I can’t believe it’s a tight race,” said Dr. Russo, a Republican. Ron Wargaski, an alarm contractor, said he was fed up with Mr. Corzine’s broken promise to cut taxes. “We’re registered Democrats, but we’re voting for Chris Christie.” Mr. Wargaski’s wife, Rosalie, said she was turned off by the governor’s negative commercials. “Hasn’t he got anything good to say?” she said. “Does he always have to attack, attack, attack?” David Smith, an oil industry consultant, said he had been a Republican most of his 60 years but was behind Mr. Corzine, who, he said, was bridging racial divides and cutting spending responsibly. “He’s sliced money from everywhere. A change to a Republican will just put us back 10 more years.” Mr. Smith said that corruption was on his mind, but that Mr. Corzine had not been responsible for the actions of crooked politicians, even his allies. “It’s part of the fabric of the state,” Mr. Smith said. At Trader Joe’s on Route 17, Ludlow Smethurst, an artist who said she was a Republican who votes Democratic, said Mr. Corzine had her support but not her enthusiasm. “He’s the best of a bad choice,” she said. “Mr. Christie’s so conservative. And I think the other guy, Daggett, is very interesting — but I don’t think we can afford to take the votes away from Corzine.”

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (74554)	11/3/2009 10:19:55 PM
From: FJB	Respond to of 224748

It's done. Fox called it for Christie...

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (74554)	11/3/2009 10:27:32 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224748

ken...so how close were the elections? :-)

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (74554)	11/4/2009 1:39:31 AM
From: FJB	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224748

From Gina on PFP: Election 2009: Some Winners, Losers slate.com Winner: Robopolls. Rasmussen's final poll, showing a 46-43-8 Christie win, was pretty damn accurate. Polls using conventional human operators tended to show Corzine ahead. They were wrong. ... If you have a choice between Rasmussen and, say, the presitigous N.Y.Times, go with Rasmussen! ... Why this is important: Rasmussen's polls tend to show the highest level of opposition to health care reform. If they accurately predict who will turn out to vote, they may signify big potential trouble for Democrats in lower-turnout mid-term elections. The Democratic Congressional id--at least the part that represents primordial existential fear of non-reelection--is throbbing. Expect a lot more unexplained hangups and talk about how we should avoid arbitrary deadlines when it comes to passing Obama's big reform. ... (I still think it will eventually pass, but it may take until next Spring or beyond.) ... Loser: Health care reform (see above) ... Loser: Obama, who tried to work his magic for Corzine and discovered it wasn't there. (I don't buy the "he invested his prestige" line. A President is still allowed to try to help in a tight race. But he was clearly not a transformative presence in this one. It was more an Olympics bid situation.) Winner: The Incumbent Rule--which holds that late-breaking voters do not go to the incumbent. Tarnished in 2004, it's having a Nixon-like rehabilitation in New Jersey. Losers: E.J.Dionne, Walter Shapiro and others caught in the MSM negative-ads worked narrative (which just happened to favor the Democrat). ... Winners: ACORN, voter fraud. A close election would have put the spotlight on them, no? I guess that could still happen in NY-23. ... Losers: Dems who were planning to argue that a Corzine victory, when contrasted with Deeds' loss, shows the need to stick with "core Democratic values" (i.e. unions) ... Loser: Card check. Virginia Republican McDonnell didn't fudge on labor's "card check" bill. He bashed it. He won. Virginia is hardly a union state, but neither are the states with Senators who are swing votes on "card check". ...

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (74554)	11/4/2009 7:56:39 AM
From: JakeStraw	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224748

Kenneth, maybe since you are convinced that man is the cause of warmer temps - as opposed to natural evolution of the planet - you should put your beliefs where your mouth is and reduce your carbon footprint by shutting off your computer.