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To: Brumar89 who wrote (332102)11/4/2009 7:03:44 AM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Respond to of 793905
 
Speaking of studiously ignoring the elections:

Hours after urging reporters not to draw sweeping conclusions from Tuesday's gubernatorial elections in New Jersey and Virginia, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told POLITICO President Barack Obama wasn't even keeping an eye on the results.

"He's not watching returns," Gibbs said.


Hardy har har. Sure he's not. Truth is, you know they were glued to the tv screens to see how bad it would turn out.

The Obama administration and other top Democrats have consistently tried to play down the import of this week's contests, which Republicans have sought to portray as a referendum on the Democratic-led government in Washington.

In Tuesday's White House press briefing, Gibbs dismissed suggestions that the two governor's races and a special election in upstate New York could be a preview of the 2010 congressional midterms.

"I don't think, looking at the two gubernatorial races, you can draw with any great insight what's going to happen a year from now," he said.

But while Obama may not have been following Tuesday's returns, he and Vice President Joe Biden campaigned repeatedly for candidates in all three of the night's key races.

As recently as Sunday, Obama stumped in New Jersey for incumbent Gov. Jon Corzine
, who has struggled in an uphill battle for reelection against former U.S. Attorney Chris Christie, a Republican.

On Monday, Biden visited New York's 23rd congressional district to appear at an event for Democratic congressional candidate Bill Owens, who was running against Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman.

Darn it, Biden just wasn't enough to turn it for Hoffman ....now if they could have gotten Obama up there ....

Both Obama and Biden made stops in Virginia for Democratic gubernatorial candidate Creigh Deeds, but the White House had expressed frustration in recent weeks at the state senator's performance on the campaign trail. Deeds conceded defeat to Republican Bob McDonnell, a former Virginia attorney general, early in the evening.

politico.com



To: Brumar89 who wrote (332102)11/4/2009 4:28:45 PM
From: KLP  Respond to of 793905
 
23rd shows blue streak (update)
Democrat ends 150-year Republican reign with victory over Conservative

By NATHAN BROWN and TIM FOLLOS, Enterprise Staff
POSTED: November 4, 2009

adirondackdailyenterprise.com

SARANAC LAKE - The second special election in the Tri-Lakes area in less than a year has produced the first Democrat to represent a vast swath of northern New York since before the Civil War.

"Upstate New York hasn't received this much attention since the Miracle on Ice," Democratic and Working Families candidate Bill Owens said in his victory speech in Plattsburgh. "And tonight, with the entire country watching, upstate New Yorkers sent a message."

Meanwhile, his opponent, Lake Placid resident Doug Hoffman, conceded his campaign just after midnight this morning in front of a crowd of about 50 crestfallen supporters and a horde of local and national media and political operatives at the Hotel Saranac. Hoffman stuck to the message of reducing taxes and government spending, his main theme as the Conservative Party's candidate for New York's 23rd District congressional seat.

"Seriously, let's join in helping Bill Owens be our congressman," Hoffman said. "Let's work with him together, but let's make sure that we get the message out there that we can't spend money that we don't have. We can't tax and regulate our people and our businesses and expect to have job growth."

Spirits were high at the Hotel Saranac as the night's returns began to filter in shortly after polls closed at 9 p.m. Members of the crowd such as North Elba town Councilman Bob Miller spoke passionately in favor of Hoffman - both as a person and as a conservative standard-bearer.

"I've never known anyone in 20 years who's had a bad word to say about him," Miller said of the accountant and businessman.
"He's the least likely guy you've ever met to run for Congress. He's a geek, but he's honest, and he's in it for the right reasons. He said, 'There's something bigger than me going on here, and I need to step up to the plate.'"

"Most of all, I hope what I have shown you and the rest of the world is that you don't have to be polished," Hoffman said. "You don't have to be poised, and you don't have to be a rock star to be a politician. All of us can step up to the plate and do it, so let's do it."

As the night went on and a roughly 4,000-vote Owens margin held steady, the crowd became increasingly anxious. As 60, then 70 percent of the vote came in and Owens maintained his lead, a large portion of the crowd drifted sadly out of the hotel, giving sincere embraces to Hoffman family members who wore their grief plainly on their faces.

As of this morning, Owens had 51.5 percent of the vote, compared to 43.7 percent for Hoffman and 4.9 percent for Dede Scozzafava, who was on the Republican and Independence party lines. Scozzafava withdrew from the race Saturday due to declining poll numbers, and turned on her party Sunday, telling her supporters to back Owens. However, the Republican Party decided at that point to back Hoffman.

The district's Republican Party had backed Scozzafava for the seat that longtime Rep. John McHugh vacated to become Army secretary, but the Conservative Party backed Hoffman, whom the Republican leaders had rejected. This divided the Republican Party, with many prominent national conservatives, including former presidential candidate and U.S. senator Fred Thompson and former Alaska governor and vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin backing Hoffman. He also received substantial funding from national conservative groups such as the Club for Growth and right-wing media personalities Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, and the race drew national attention.

Owens won in Hoffman's home Essex County, where Republicans have a substantial voter registration advantage, with 3,718 votes compared to 3,175 for Hoffman and 432 for Scozzafava. Keene town Councilman Paul Martin couldn't vote in the Hoffman-Owens race because, like Hoffman, he lives in the neighboring 20th District, but he found Owens' taking of Hoffman's home county interesting.

"This used to be a tremendous conservative center, this whole North Country area," Martin said. "You couldn't find a Democrat in this whole area. ... And of course, all that's changed. ... It's kind of like what Vermont went through.
"I think there are a lot of thinking people up here, and maybe they figured it was time for a change somewhere along the line."

Hoffman had said he would move to Saranac Lake, most of which is inside the 23rd District, if elected, and even bought a house on Riverside Drive. Lake Placid, where Hoffman lives, is in the 20th District represented by Glens Falls Democrat Scott Murphy, who was chosen in a special election earlier this year.
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Managing Editor Peter Crowley and Staff Writer Mike Lynch contributed to this report.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (332102)11/4/2009 4:46:04 PM
From: FJB  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793905
 
Italy Convicts Former CIA Agents In Rendition Trial

November 4, 2009
By REUTERS
nytimes.com
Filed at 2:22 p.m. ET

MILAN/ROME (Reuters) - An Italian judge sentenced 23 Americans to up to eight years in prison on Wednesday for the abduction of a Muslim cleric, in a symbolic condemnation of the CIA "rendition" flights used by the former U.S. government.

The Americans were all tried in absentia because the United States refused to extradite them.

The U.S. State Department expressed its disappointment with the verdict, the first of its kind, but campaigners who have long complained that the renditions policy violated basic human rights said the ruling set an important precedent.

"This decision sends a clear message to all governments that even in the fight against terrorism you can't forsake the basic rights of our democracies," said prosecutor Armando Spataro.

Judge Oscar Magi handed down the convictions for the abduction of Egyptian-born cleric Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, snatched off a Milan street in 2003 and flown to Egypt for interrogation.

The heaviest sentence -- eight years in prison -- was handed down to the former head of the CIA's Milan station, Robert Seldon Lady, while 21 other former agents got five years each.

U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Joseph Romano was also sentenced to five years, despite a request from the Pentagon that the case should be tried by U.S. courts.

Magi dropped the case against three Americans, including a former CIA Rome station chief, because of diplomatic immunity.

Charges were also dropped against five Italians, including the former head of the Sismi military intelligence service, Nicolo Pollari, because evidence against them violated state secrecy rules.

However, the judge sentenced two more junior Sismi agents to three years in prison as accomplices, indicating Italian authorities were aware of the abduction.

"LIKE A SLAUGHTERED SHEEP"

The judge ruled that those convicted should pay 1 million euros in damages to Nasr, better known as Abu Omar, and 500,000 euros to his wife.

Abu Omar, under surveillance by Italian police at the time of his abduction on suspicion of recruiting militants for Iraq, was secretly flown from Aviano airbase in northeast Italy via Ramstein base in Germany to Egypt, where he says he was tortured and held until 2007 without charge.

"I was hung up like a slaughtered sheep and given electric shocks," Abu Omar has told Human Rights Watch.

It is the first case to contest the practice of "extraordinary rendition" under the administration of former U.S. President George W. Bush, in which terrorism suspects were captured in one country and taken for questioning in another, where interrogation techniques were tougher.

The trial, which began in 2007, tested U.S.-Italian relations. It moved slowly because successive Italian governments, including Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's conservative administration, refused to seek the extradition of the U.S. defendants.

"This is clearly a historic verdict," said Judith Sunderland of Human Rights Watch. "It is a real testament to the tenacity of the Milan prosecutors' office that this case went forward."

Washington, which has never acknowledged any rendition flights from Italy, is still debating the harsh interrogation of terrorism suspects in U.S. custody and whether to prosecute the officials responsible.

"The United States shouldn't need a foreign court to distinguish right from wrong," Amnesty International said.

"The Obama administration must repudiate the unlawful practice of extraordinary rendition -- and hold accountable those responsible for having put the system in place -- or his administration will end up as tarnished as his predecessor's."

Italy's Il Giornale newspaper, owned by Berlusconi's family, quoted Lady as saying in June: "Of course it was an illegal operation. But that's our job. We're at war against terrorism."