To: Maurice Winn who wrote (31951 ) 11/5/2009 5:21:50 AM From: axial Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 46821 Is there some reason you prefer to discuss fibre exclusively from the viewpoint of the somewhat-impaired NZ implementation? Also, if the unstated agenda is to disqualify socialism (or even social democracy) then we understand why you prefer to ignore Sweden's longstanding success, but why should you also ignore Japan and Korea? All three demonstrate successful intervention by government policy that resulted in true broadband: high throughput at reasonable prices, with profitable commercial participants. Rather than point to a number of questionable statements. I'll choose one: "Cyberspace is shovel ready. All that's needed is for governments to get out of the way. No subsidies are needed. Tax cuts would be good." [1] Cyberspace is shovel ready. Please indicate what that means, in terms of cost and throughput. Not in New Zealand's error-prone implementation but elsewhere: like here. [2] All that's needed is for governments to get out of the way. Please explain how "broadband" can be brought to nations currently burdened with antiquated telecomms economics, laws, regulation and policy without government involvement. Are you proposing those should be violated by a new broadband regime? That would certainly get government out of the way. You are proposing that the superceded "out of the way" regulator be replaced by ________ ?? And by what law will the new regulator be empowered? Consistent with what revised telecomms policy, originated by whom? Or will the new broadband regime be industry-imposed, enlightened, self-regulating and autonomous from the host jurisdiction? [3] No subsidies are needed. Tax cuts would be good. An x % bottom-line, or end-user cost improvement may be achieved by either. One results in government expenditure, the other in decreased government revenue. Both can accurately be called stimulus. Of course, you would have these changes made without government, which you want "out of the way". Presumably such changes will be enacted and enforced through the tender mercies of commercial interest? Jim