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To: TobagoJack who wrote (57571)	11/5/2009 10:25:21 PM
From: CusterInvestor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217737

so far been a 300 years cake walk, barefoot, on cream, with boston tea cup in hand, and pinky finger extended with minor exceptions <g>

To: TobagoJack who wrote (57571)	11/5/2009 11:04:26 PM
From: RJA_	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 217737

>>nearer the end of the story, the gentle taxation will evolve into harsh taking, and then, outright robbery Obama health care plan will result in poorer insurance, with higher deductibles at greater cost... taxes imposed on insurers will add to premiums.(1) Climate bill will raise electric costs by 40% per president of local electrical coop. Bush tax cuts expire 2011. Add it all up. Robbery yet? ___________________ (1) The footnote re Obama care: More concrete numbers from the Congressional Budget office: MANDITORY: 18% or 15% of Pre Tax Income out of your pocket. See below. Hows your wallet? [What I still dont know is how this interacts with Medicare]. This is not a Social Security program for health care. It is mandatory self funded insurance, like your auto insurance. Is this what you voted for? nytimes.com New York Times 11/2: (snip) Under the House bill, the budget office said, a family of four with income of $78,000 in 2016 would pay, on average, an annual premium of $8,800 and co-payments of $5,000, for a total of $13,800, equivalent to 18 percent of the family’s income. A family of four with income of $90,100 could also receive subsidies. It would pay $11,100 in premiums and $5,500 in cost-sharing, for a total of $16,600, or 18 percent of family income, the budget office said. For lower-income people, the subsidies would be more generous. A family of four with income of $66,000 would pay premiums of $6,300 and cost-sharing of $3,700, for a total of $10,000, or 15 percent of its income in 2016, the budget office said.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (57571)	11/5/2009 11:12:45 PM
From: Ilaine	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217737

It's an interesting argument. My counterargument is that the original European settlers of America were descended from far western Europeans, western coast of Spain, France, Portugal, Netherlands, various Scandinavian countries, and Engand. Spanish first, English next. But those people were descendents of 60,000 years of peoples pushed to the far west of European continent during various glaciation periods. We (I am descended from these peoples) have an entirely different history than Asians. We walked west, you guys walked east. My native American ancestors kept walking east, your ancestors stopped. What is human nature? Are you and I exactly the same, genetically, culturally, socially. I would argue no. We picked up Harappa, Mohenjo Daro, Babylon, Athens, Sparta, Rome, Paris, London, etc., before we got here. You picked up other stuff. Confucius. Lao Tze. Buddha. Genghis Khan. We adapted to different ecological niches. We have evolved separately. You are not us. We are not you.