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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Peter Dierks who wrote (11191)	11/9/2009 10:07:57 AM
From: Lane3	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

The countries with socialized medicine are going away from it. It doesn't matter. They have it. They've had it for a long time. It is currently the status quo. Even if they retreat from it, it wouldn't be radical because it would have been practiced extensively for decades, is widely known and hardly novel. So depravity is ok as long as a few people are doing it. You're muddling. I didn't say anything was OK. Surely you realize that I don't think nationalized health insurance is OK. I'm merely arguing that it isn't radical, which is a very different concept. Depravity, as you say, has been in practice forever. It's not OK but it's not radical, either. Your arguments sound like the ones that must have been common to justify what was happening in Germany during the 1930's. More of your muddling. I'm arguing a definitional point--what constitutes "radical." You're throwing back at me a value judgment, whether this or that policy is good or bad. I'm making no value judgments, only categorizing. My value judgment re Obama's initiatives is not favorable. That has nothing to do with whether or not they are radical. I don't know if you're trying to shift the argument to one of value judgments because you are unable to differentiate between arguments about categorization vs those about value judgments or if throwing Hitler at me is yet another demonstration of the last resort of those without sound arguments. Either way, it won't fly.