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To: Sea Otter who wrote (180295)	11/13/2009 2:41:26 AM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 362394

A Farewell to Lou ______________________________________________________________ Editorial The New York Times November 13, 2009 Lou Dobbs has left CNN, or maybe the other way around. Whichever it is, an old, odd, infuriating-to-many mismatch of sober network and strident host is over. CNN, for now anyway, changes back to something closer to the nonpartisan, straight-up news network it wants you to think of it as, different from its ideologically branded rivals Fox News and MSNBC. The real question is the effect the change will have on Mr. Dobbs. Mr. Dobbs, once a pinstriped purveyor of financial news, has burrowed deep into the popular culture as a self-styled populist enraged by illegal immigration. When he resigned on the air Wednesday night, he made it clear that that aspect of his public persona is not going away. He listed immigration along with jobs, the middle class and war as among the issues urgently needing his kind of honest, straightforward examination. “Unfortunately,” he said, “these issues are now defined in the public arena by partisanship and ideology rather than by rigorous, empirical thought and forthright analysis and discussion.” Mr. Dobbs couldn’t have phrased a more apt criticism of himself. He calls himself Mr. Independent, but he is far closer in style and method to the right-wing ranters who mold the facts to shape the argument on television and on AM radio, where Mr. Dobbs still has a show. Mr. Dobbs’s CNN program has long been a nesting ground for untruths and conspiracy theories: fretting over a nonexistent, immigrant-borne leprosy epidemic; questioning President Obama’s citizenship; issuing dark warnings about the “North American Union,” a supposed plot to strangle United States sovereignty. It’s hard to pinpoint how much damage these kinds of ideas have done to the national discussion of illegal immigration, but they have been corrosive. Solutions have withered as many politicians parrot the central myth that people desperate to seek new lives in the United States are an affliction to be feared, not an opportunity to be engaged, future Americans who could enrich the country as immigrants always have and will. Now Mr. Dobbs has pledged to “engage in constructive problem solving.” Here is a problem to solve constructively: Illegal immigrants are, as Mr. Dobbs likes to say, decent, honest, hard-working people. They are exploited by greedy corporate interests. They are not about to deport themselves, and we aren’t about to deport them all. It’s a problem to which Mr. Dobbs has never really offered an answer. Perhaps someday he will. Copyright 2009 The New York Times Company

To: Sea Otter who wrote (180295)	11/13/2009 11:55:41 AM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 362394

First let me say the folks on the thread below may make the most money (percentage wise) of any invesitng group on SI. Maybe anywhere? For reasons I point out below. I have been trading mining shares for 30 years. Subject 27370 There is a basic strategy known by folks who trade mining stocks. It goes like this: When the metals are moving up we buy Canadian wts (or US options) on majors. We are only looking for proxy vehicles, so we do not pay a lot of attention to any individual company per se, but rather to protect our investent we diversify. Right now my four primary wts are FR B, EDR, PTM and TRX wts. Almost all of us on the thread own theses four wts. When the metals stop moving, the majors will stop moving. The reason being that majors are pretty easy to quantify. We then move down to junior producers, or juniors with good ore bodies, and then we keep moving down to good exploration stocks and finally goat pasture. In 05,6,7 many of us made several hundred percent of our entire portfolio with wts on companies like HBM, BWR, Rio Narcea, BNK, etc. BNK wt recently gave some holders 30 and 40 baggers. 10 baggers are common. If the move up lingers, then we start playing area and exploration plays. Canadian wts is an esoteric financial play where we have a large advantage over the Harvard MBA's because it requires specific knowldge and working around lack of liquidity prevents computer or algorithiums trading working. Many of the group on that thread have been together for years, so we know each other well. Onepath, shootfirst and Ted Nancy, Max, uptick, lone clone, Mario, etc are all old pros and really now their stuff. Good luck.