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To: marcos who wrote (20800)	11/13/2009 3:48:55 AM
From: stonecrop	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 233807

Marcos, you've nailed it to a tee on Otto. I remember when you were speaking of EC when it was in the teens and look at where it is now. The botox dude was also pounding the table so kudos to him as well. No matter if Otto thinks some of these plays are as scummy as can be from his knowledgeable LatAm vantage point - that is purely one man's opinion VERSUS "the market". He's not looking so savvy on some of his repeated thrashings (ie. EC/CSI). On others, yep, he's making perfect sense with the P&D scams going on. I'm sure his inbox is piling up with "returned" STFU mugs and hopefully he takes heed. The venom he builds up sure could be used elsewhere in a positive way...

To: marcos who wrote (20800)	11/13/2009 6:50:54 AM
From: ogi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 233807

As usual you have summed things up so very well, accurate and judicious. As for Cadre and Howy being on the job , please forgive my chuckling as you have started my day with warm smiles. Yes Cadre, has/had a dedicated proponent in long suffering Howy whom I have had the great pleasure of meeting and discussing Cadre in person. I did my best to turn him away at that time but his heart was pure and his mind set on it.!! Cheers, Ogi