To: LLCF who wrote (81793 ) 11/17/2009 2:01:03 AM From: Greg or e Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 "you keep saying obvious things as if they refute something... like "ITS A HUMAN ZYOTE, NOT A MARTIAN!"" If you are going to use quotes then you have a duty to reproduce statements accurately. In this case you have not. Sloppy misleading and dishonest. Exactly what is a "ZYOTE" anyway? Here's what I actually asked: <What do you think a zygote produced by a male and female Human is, if it's not human; Is it a Martian? > Then I quoted an Embryology textbook to show that the Human Zygote is a Human Being: <<<"A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo)." Keith L. Moore, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003. pp. 16, 2.>>> <You never quote any embryologists,> "dont' need to. It's obvious... do you doubt that point?" I doubt everything you say because you are consistently either wrong or dishonest. < It is very interesting to note however that the ones arguing for Human experimentation are arguing that the Zygote does not become a Human Being until implantation which clearly indicates that they believe that an implanted Zygote is a Human being. Your position is damned either way. It's unscientific, unethical, and illogical.> "ROFMAO!! Unlike YOU I actually have taken a bioethics course and read book on it." You read book? Me not know that. :) You never did address the point Mr "I read book". The fact is, that was the argument (Not a Human Being UNTIL IMPLANTATION!) that was posited by those who want to do experiments on Human beings. "Why DONT you study this stuff, sound like you're interested!" Why are all your arguments so misinformed if you have studied this subject and why don't you quote from all these sources you have at your fingertips instead of Wiki/flunki and triki/ dici?