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To: Madharry who wrote (35968)11/17/2009 11:51:28 PM
From: Spekulatius2 Recommendations  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 78710
 
I don't know about these Chinese microcaps. On the surface they look cheap but they all have issues, most of which seem to be of similar nature. Things that bother me:

1) The dilute shareholders even though balance sheet looks OK
2) Insider and related party transactions are common
3) No dividends despite good earnings
4) Some are using different account in China than in their finanical SEC statements
5) Why do they list at US stock markets at all since their home stock market is vibrant and they have the choice to list in mainland china and HK? Most other foreign companies are delisting because of Sarbanes Oxley and other reasons. I find it strange that Chinese microcaps don't seem to mind.

I have owned AOB on and off. Right now I am in "off state" after reading Ascensio's article in Seekingalpha <ng>. there was this strange transaction a year or two ago where they bought a conference center and Ascensio claims that they bought shell companies from related parties this year. you really would need to watch this stuff. if anyone has found a microcap with decent management that cares about shareholders, I'd like to know it. So far the ones that I owned were all off the "hold the nose" kind, except maybe WH.



To: Madharry who wrote (35968)11/19/2009 3:12:25 PM
From: Paul Senior  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78710
 
Madharry, I'd guess maybe 4% of my portfolios are Chinese domiciled. I'd like to increase that to 20%, but I'm too scared I'm too late or that I don't understand the market risks well-enough. I can mitigate the business risk somewhat by holding diverse companies; cannot hedge the market risk though.