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To: SARMAN who wrote (271575)	11/18/2009 11:38:09 AM
From: Hawkmoon	3 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

I am an American, I care about my fellow Americans. Unlike you Like hell you do. Because if you cared about your "fellow Americans", then you'd do EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to protect them from being targeted by hostile forces seeking to destroy this country. Everything you've posted on this, and other threads, indicates that you would advocate and excuse every effort to wipe a democratic country off the face of the earth. If you're willing to do that, then you're likely to next turn your attention to our own government, as well as our constitution. Sarman.. you can't be an American, exploiting the freedoms and values you enjoy here, yet deny those same freedoms to others. And you certainly can't justify supporting totalitarian regimes and entities to destroy a democratic country just because you don't like their policies. You may hate Zionists, but there are everyday people living in Israel who want nothing more than to live their lives without being threatened with extermination. They likely do not fall under whatever definition of Zionism you rely upon. And I don't see any hint of expansionism on the part of Israel. In fact, they've already traded more captured territory in their "land for peace" deals with Egypt, exceeding their own geographical boundaries. This, despite the fact that every Arab nation on their borders sought their destruction. That doesn't sound like expansionist policy to me. If the US were attacked by Mexico or Canada, I'd be damned if I let them have any land back that we captured. Furthermore, they've had millions of hostile people, the former Jordanian subjects living on the West Bank abandoned by the Hashimites, thrust under their caretaking. And Arabs living in Israel have more rights under a ZIONIST government than do non-Arabs living in the Palestinian Authority (or any other Arab country). All of you who hate Zionists use the Palestinian people AS PAWNS in your games (to which they unfortunately seem amenable). You expend their lives, and their futures, because you can't bring yourselves to accept, AND RECOGNIZE, the existence of Israel. Basically, you spend your lives floating on the "River of Denial, refusing to anchor yourselves in reality. And you care, because??? I care about them as much as I care about my fellow Americans. THEY ARE INDIVIDUAL HUMAN BEINGS AND THAT, IN CASE YOU'VE FORGOTTEN, IS WHAT OUR CONSTITUTION WAS WRITTEN FOR. Our constitution is not just for Americans. It's for EVERYONE. It's a model upon which many other people have transitioned from monarchies and dictatorships into democratic nations. It is evident that you only care about Israel and killing Muslims. I guess it has never crossed your mind that there are millions of Muslims who care only about killing Israelis and Americans?? So pardon me if I advocate finding those militants and killing them before they get the chance to kill us. That's how reality works. I'll be damned if I'll provide support to any group that would just as soon kill Americans as they would Zionists. Hawk