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To: Alighieri who wrote (530324)11/18/2009 2:17:55 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576827
 
>>> We have learned next to nothing with these coercive interrogation methods

Except we know this isn't true.

>> have left behind a quagmire that needs to be cleaned up through a legally defensible process

The Bush administration planned to use a "legally defensible process". That's what the delays were about -- finding a legally defensible process that would, at the same time, protect the American people.

Obama simply shortcut the process by not requiring the American People to be protected by the process.



To: Alighieri who wrote (530324)11/18/2009 2:29:49 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576827
 
Al, > I am certain that the JD has done its home work and they have concluded that they have a strong case, WB or not.

The part that concerns me is the section explaining why the military tribunal was not pursued. Basically Obama is changing the rules of military tribunals, which would make them almost unviable for the vast majority of enemy combatants we have in custody.

It is my belief that the Justice Department wasn't really given a set of viable options. They're being tried in a civilian court because Obama pretty much steered them that way. Whether the Justice Department did their homework or not is irrelevant.

Of course, Obama isn't stupid, so if there is any chance that KSM walks, it'll be Obama who takes the fall. Blaming Bush might be easy for you, but it certainly won't be for him, so in that sense he might already have the bases covered. But I remain skeptical; after all, Obama has made blunders and miscalls before.

Tenchusatsu



To: Alighieri who wrote (530324)4/6/2011 2:27:27 AM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576827
 
Al, > I am certain that the JD has done its home work and they have concluded that they have a strong case, WB or not. That is what I have read.

Still think the Justice Department did its homework and concluded that they have a strong case for a trial in New York? LOL ...

In Reversal, Obama Orders Guantanamo Military Trial for 9/11 Mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

abcnews.go.com

Of course, Eric Holder is blaming Congress for the reversal. (Don't read it if you can't accept FOXNews as a legitimate news network):

foxnews.com

I'll wait while you blame Bush ...

Tenchusatsu