To: tejek who wrote (530533 ) 11/19/2009 9:25:59 PM From: TimF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575761 Private industry gave estimates based on normal appropriate methods that turned out to be too low. Nope, they misread the yields. They didn't have final yields to read. They had very early results and normal methods of estimating final results, which didn't work well for this strain. But even if they had used known faulty methods, or worse yet just made up the numbers, it would be a much smaller contribution to the problem than what the feds did. If the estimates where perfect we would still have the shortage we just would have known about it sooner. Government created the whole framework for the industry that was behind in the shortage. What does that mean? They created the circumstances behind the shortage. There are three primary factors that come from the government. 1 - The government put in place price limitations back in the 90s, leading us to only have one production plant for vaccines in this country, and greatly reducing private R&D on new methods of vaccine production. 2 - They also created the policy of no adjuvant use (which reduced the amount number of doeses available to a large extent, the shortage wouldn't have been anywhere near as severe if 4 times as many doses where available) 3 - They imposed waiting/testing requirements that are far more time consuming than those in use in Europe or most of the rest of the world. .the swine flu virus wasn't verified until June and it takes 3-6 months to get the vaccine produced in quantity If vaccine production had not faced price caps newer methods might be in production now that could produce the vaccine in quantity much quicker. Even without the newer methods, we would have had a higher production capacity. With that change alone there would still be a wait (9 women can't have a baby in 1 month), but when it started to come out in quantity the quantity would have been higher. Also with slightly different processes, the low yields may not have affected all the new production. And even with the basic egg methods in use now, if the government regulated production more like it is regulated in Europe then the first batches, and the first batches with reasonable yield would both be out sooner.