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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (11642)	11/21/2009 8:18:38 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

Sen. Ron Wyden has sold to the Democratic leadership an amendment that would enable more employees to cash out their employer-provided benefits and buy their own insurance policy on a health exchange. This seems a great idea – and even more, a great idea for conservatives. Remember, it was conservative economists who established the case for the irrationality of the whole employer-provided benefits system. It’s been a crazy feature of this year’s debate that conservatives keep backing themselves into positions they did not believe two years ago and won’t believe two years from now. Now we are in the ludicrous position of opposing curbs on Medicare spending, opposing global budgeting for health systems, opposing studies of comparative effectiveness -and championing the employer-provided system that Milton Friedman regularly excoriated as the source of all trouble in the American health market. Why is it left to a Democrat like Wyden to press for individual purchase within a prudently regulated health marketplace? frumforum.com

To: Lane3 who wrote (11642)	11/21/2009 11:41:35 AM
From: Don Hurst	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 42652

>>" I would have liked to have seen a fully fleshed out R alternative. But I can understand why they didn't waste time on it. "<< Lane3, I do not give them that "understanding"! Last night Roberts was up there bad mouthing Zeke Emmanual and raising the rationing baloney. I didn't see "Death Panels" Grassley but Coburn was up there and I waited for him to tell us that the first line of health care should be a visit to the neighbor. Now the BS that comes from this terrible crowd that as in the past 20th century has been on the wrong side of every decent social program in this country deserves no "understanding". When their leaders start standing up to their crazy right wingers then maybe, just maybe, they will deserve some small amount of "understanding". Watch what happens when Climate Change gets to the Senate.