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To: JohnM who wrote (125271)	11/21/2009 11:34:11 AM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543351

John; If they get sick, they don't go to witch doctors; What is REALLY funny, in a sad sort of way, is that they go to the doctor not even understanding that the medicine they get is a product of evolution. Bugs are evolving changing to get around our latest antibiotics so we then must come up with a new drug. Its a constant dance between medicine and infection all because of the principles of evolution. If evolution did not exist this problem would not be there. Every time a creationist gets sick and goes in to see a dr. the doc should ask ....."do you want the latest antibiotic or if you think there is no such thing as evolution we can give you the much cheaper and older antibiotic". That will help on health care cost. steve

To: JohnM who wrote (125271)	11/22/2009 10:13:16 AM
From: Bread Upon The Water	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543351

Not exactly so. Although I'm not saying your observations about Bachmann and her group are incorrect, My argument is that the means we as a people use to evaluate politicians refer to our cultural norms. It HAS NOTHING TO DO with whether or not those cultural norms are scientifically valid. As I hopefully pointed out somewhere along the way--those norms are varied and science is but one of our values and these norms compete against each other in our culture. Indeed, I submit they are the basis of the red blue divide--argumentatively so without data. Therefore, it is incorrect to say Bachmann is a "nutjob" (i.e. Abnormal) inasmuch as she complies with at least some of the cultural norms (at least of those of the group that elected her.) One can make these same arguments in reference to Palin, Gay Marriage, or any other issue where our value system is in flux. I think, but am not sure, the literature/authors you cited previously would just be commenting on the different norms we use and how they compete against each other.