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To: Little Joe who wrote (125337)11/22/2009 12:20:43 PM
From: Steve Lokness  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542907
 
Little Joe;

Cass Sunstein has expressed a belief that animals, and I believe trees, should have the right to sue people.

I wasn't familiar with Sunstein and so did a little research on him - based on your statement that trees should have the right to sue people. Are you listening to only Fox again? From w3hat i have found it seems you have mixed up Sunstein with John Holden. Gosh little joe it is hard to take you serious when you twist facts up to such an extent - and it is why people suggest you need to back up your statements. Even that left wing rag the Wall Street Journal endorsed him.

Here is some reading for you on Sunstein so you can be better informed next time;

en.wikipedia.org

Sunstein is a proponent of judicial minimalism, arguing that judges should focus primarily on deciding the case at hand, and avoid making sweeping changes to the law or decisions that have broad-reaching effects. Some view him as liberal[citation needed] despite publicly supporting some of George W. Bush's judicial nominees, including Michael W. McConnell and John G. Roberts, as well as supporting rights under the Second Amendment [10] and providing strong theoretical support for the death penalty[11]. Much of his work also brings behavioral economics to bear on law, suggesting that the "rational actor" model will sometimes produce an inadequate understanding of how people will respond to legal intervention.

In recent years Sunstein has collaborated with academics who have training in behavioral economics, most notably Daniel Kahneman, Richard Thaler, and Christine M. Jolls, to show how the theoretical assumptions of law and economics should be modified by new empirical findings about how people actually behave.

Sunstein (along with his coauthor Richard Thaler) has elaborated the theory of libertarian paternalism. In arguing for this theory, he counsels thinkers/academics/politicians to embrace the findings of behavioral economics as applied to law, maintaining freedom of choice while also steering people's decisions in directions that will make their lives go better. With Thaler, he coined the term "choice architect."



To: Little Joe who wrote (125337)11/22/2009 12:43:51 PM
From: Steve Lokness  Respond to of 542907
 
Little Joe;

One more comment on Sunstein as I am still researching him. Sunstein has written just a ton of books and his latest one he coauthors with Richard Thaler. Richard Thaler is now an advisor to Austin Goolsbee. Goolsbee has truely an amazing mind. Goolsbee gets it - he gets what America must do to compete in the modern world. I think you would like a lot of his thinking. Check him out.

steve



To: Little Joe who wrote (125337)11/22/2009 12:49:06 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542907
 
Carol Browner - Former leader Socialist International Group. As I understand it she resigned just before she was appointed.

Not doing your homework, Joe. Check out this wikipedia entry for Browner. If you are going to pass these off hand comments off like this, at least grace us with the links which justify such claims.

en.wikipedia.org

I see that Steve took on your claims about Sunstein, clearly one of the most sterling appointments of the administration.



To: Little Joe who wrote (125337)11/22/2009 2:25:51 PM
From: Suma  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542907
 
White House Adviser Van Jones Resigns Amid Controversy Over Past ... Sep 6, 2009 ... White House environmental adviser Van Jones

Well that took care of him.... He seemed harmless but Beck created a conspiracy around him

Van Jones has been a strong voice for green jobs and we look forward to having him work with departments and agencies to advance the President’s agenda of creating 21st century jobs that improve energy efficiency and utilize renewable resources. Jones will also help to shape and advance the Administration’s energy and climate initiatives with a specific interest in improvements and opportunities for vulnerable communities



To: Little Joe who wrote (125337)11/22/2009 2:53:05 PM
From: Suma  Respond to of 542907
 
LJ.

I was in college in the last forties and fifties. This avowed Communist stuff was all over the place.. The other phrase was card carrying communist.

I happened to have a group of graduate students who were getting degrees in Mathematics,Physics and Nuclear Sciences.

They were brilliant and I learned more from them than I did from many of the course I took...

However they were called upon to sign a loyalty oath.
They thought that it was a infringement on their first constitutional rights and would not do it.

That is where I heard the name Avowed Communist... They were NOT but because they refused to comply with what they
thought was unconstitutional they were labeled. That is why I really dislike seeing this labeling stuff without looking in depth into it.

This was the era of the budding of McCarthy... It was
scary because too many allegations were made against people who joined some organization... let's say like the Humane Society.. only to find out later that it was labeled as
a Communist front organization. AND because they had joined
in good faith since they loved animals they were also
labeled...

For the few communists that McCarthy rooted out he took down a lot of lives..



To: Little Joe who wrote (125337)11/23/2009 12:31:45 PM
From: KonKilo  Respond to of 542907
 
Cass Sunstein has expressed a belief that animals, and I believe trees, should have the right to sue people.

Would you be so kind as to post a link to verify this claim?