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To: RetiredNow who wrote (531663)11/22/2009 4:55:58 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574854
 
>> An examination of the data, however, shows that this forecast was totally wrong in every respect.

Try to keep up.

I just went through this with CJ a couple weeks ago and flatly proved him wrong. But I get tired of looking up the same damned numbers over and over again. I'm not going to spend much time on this time around -- only enough to convey the fact that you're obviously wrong. Real GDP by year:

1989 3.573
1990 1.877..... In June, Bush breaks his "Read My Lips" pledge
1991 (0.234).... So, what happens?
1992 3.393..... Very Strong Economic Recovery Begins
1993 2.852..... '93 tax hike kills it
1994 4.074
1995 2.515
1996 3.741
1997 4.457..... '97 tax cuts produce economic surge
1998 4.355
1999 4.826

This really leaves no doubt at all. Only one year is an outlier, and that is '94 -- but coming out of the recession in '91 you would have expected huge economic growth, yet it was dampened by the tax increases.

Okay, I'm not arguing this further. There are the facts. You can argue with them all you want.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (531663)11/23/2009 1:05:29 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 1574854
 
You do have the point that the claim or assumption that a tax increase would automatically and always lead to economic disaster was an inaccurate. But that doesn't mean tax increases benefit the economy, or even that they don't harm it.

The marginal rates where still much lower than the pre-Reagan rates even after the Clinton increase.

Also while the tax increase was itself harmful it was far from the only thing going on in the economy at the time. The restraint on spending (whether you credit Clinton, or like me give more credit to the new Republican congress at the time), lower oil prices, and investment and other decisions made in and by the private sector, where bigger factors on the economy than the tax increase.