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To: quehubo who wrote (125405)	11/22/2009 10:43:55 PM
From: freelyhovering	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542147

many ways.... Certainly not by trusting Insurance companies and Big Pharm. Crooks need to be controlled by the POWLICE. And Big Gov is the only POWLICE AROUND.

To: quehubo who wrote (125405)	11/23/2009 12:44:40 AM
From: Cogito	Respond to of 542147

>>There are many ways to provide cheaper insurance and health care options than have a huge government take over of health care.<< Q - I'm not sure why you say this, since nobody is proposing a government takeover of healthcare. The current health bills do place substantially greater regulatory burdens on health insurance companies, and they would create some kind of government entity to provide health insurance for those who could not afford private coverage. Neither of those things come close to justifying your hyperbole about government takeovers. - Allen

To: quehubo who wrote (125405)	11/23/2009 7:25:46 AM
From: Ron	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542147

I'll give you credit, you are absolutely correct that we have not yet paid for the war in Iraq. Why? Because Bush put through large tax cuts just as we began the war, thus passing the costs along to future generations. But you did not address the 'we-they' aspect. That's a fallacy as 'we' are all Americans, or should be. Improving access to health care is a simple matter of the common good. Your phrase 'government take over of health care' is a false premise. No such thing has been proposed. The phrase is straight out of a Blue Cross/Aetna/United Healthcare playbook.