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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (58209)11/23/2009 12:52:48 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu1 Recommendation  Respond to of 217743
 
>>> On Darwinism, it's quite possible for selection to work the opposite way from your suggestion - Pol Pot and Mao were keen to eliminate aristocracy and intelligence. In general, the stupid and violent are quick to attack the intelligent who threaten their violent megalomania. <<<

This is why Stalin started the "purge" of intellectuals (the more intelligent people) just before WWII and also afterwards - which one generation+ later gave way to the collapse of the Soviet Union - Gorbachev realized that and therefore he started with "Perestroica" in hope to salvage what he could



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (58209)11/23/2009 7:41:53 PM
From: koan2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217743
 
With all due respect:

I strongly disagree that education is over rated. In fact, IMO, it is almost the whole ball game and Scientific American Agrees.

It was the age of enlightenment (education)that planted the roots of civilization. Before education we ran around like a bunch of wild animlas killing and maiming everything and with slavery and even cannibalism commonplace.

Last year SA had a feature article on "The Expert Mind". They studied chess players and found a 10 year rule i.e. it takes 10 years to develop an "expert mind". More than to train a brain surgeon.

What seems to happen is that the mind builds software. They asked a master chess player how far in advance he sees and he said I don't do that, I just make a move and it is usually the right move. The expert mind also makes moves much faster. He had three daughters and made them study chess six hours a day and all three became grand masters.

You give me a person with a normal IQ and a PHD from Berkely, and a person with a 130 IQ with no education and I guarantee you the person with the 100 IQ will kick the 130 IQ person's ass in just about everyything they do. Academically or not.

PS they have also found stimulous does cause the brain to build additional neural networks. IN fact they have recently found that the brain is constantly making new brain neurons, but if there is inadquate stimulous (7 day critical period)the new brain cells do not take hold, but disappear.

The Japanese and Jews are the most educated peoeple on earth and look at what they have done economically with almost nothing. One country lives on a a coupe of barren rocks and the other in a desert.

In 30 years the Japanese became the second largest economy on earth.

I am not Jewish, but you go into almost any Jewish household and the kids are articulate because education is highly valued in that culture. You go into the same ghetto household with the same cross section of IQ's and they will often seem feeble minded from lack of education.

>>Haim, education is vastly over rated in its contribution to intelligence. Far more important is food quality and vitamin D. The pregnant woman's diet and the child's food quality while their brain grows for 22 years are far more important than so-called education.

All education does is provide something for the intelligent to think about. It doesn't make the brain grow. Any half-witted child can easily get information to think about themselves without being handicapped by authoritarians into lowest common denominator "education" rote learning of irrelevancies.

Notice how self-educated "drop outs" like $ill Gates are the highest performers. Being "out" relieves them of the irrelevant and enables focus on the vital.