To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (58224 ) 11/23/2009 6:59:37 PM From: Maurice Winn 1 Recommendation Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 217822 Nobody originated in the Rhine region of Germany. Everyone came from somewhere else. What happened regarding Ashkenazis in the Rhine region is that they migrated there from elsewhere, namely the Levant and they got to the Levant from the migratory amalgamation of the groups I mentioned, combining the DNA essentials from those groups to produce the super hot stuff intellectual properties shown by some of the Ashkenazis. Those groups came from the haplotype analysis I saw a few years ago which included Ashkenazis. Being a curious type I had a good look to see the origins of those haplotypes and that's where they were from. I didn't make them up. Not all Ashkenazis have the amazing DNA of course [few do] because DNA is a lottery with vastly more losers than winners, though the winners come to predominate over varying lengths of time such as the father of all non-Africans having left Africa only 30,000 years ago and the mother of all non-Africans only 90,000 years ago, replacing all who had gone before. Once established in the Rhine and spreading beyond, the Ashkenazis were very successful as were swarms of people around the world over the last 2000 years as population growth rates since then show. Many Ashkenazis left for the USA and those who didn't were to a large extent murdered by ignorant people who make up the bulk of humanity and who supported Adolf and like-minded maniacs in many countries. Pride, envy and megalomania know no bounds. After Ashkenazi DNA compilation in the Levant [most likely] or maybe even further east in India with later western migration to the Palestinian area, swarms of Ashkenazis were forcibly taken to Rome for the Roman Empire's profitable disposal as slaves. Later, there was migration of Ashkenazis from the Roman Empire north to the Rhine and surrounds where the huge success and burgeoning Ashkenazi population arose, with migration in various directions from there. The point of it all [apart from curiosity which is a good enough reason] is that superlative brainpower is so valuable that it's worth finding the genes that make it so. Looking for the source is a good idea and my theory is that looking around north west India is a good place to start because there are so many people. I'd rather find the genes which enable the amazing than a truckload of gold which is useless and just sits there attracting criminals. Mqurice