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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (335645)11/24/2009 5:45:28 PM
From: Nadine Carroll4 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793955
 
The statement also quotes Jones, CRU's director, explaining his November 1999 e-mail, which said: "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." Jones said that the word trick was used "colloquially as in a clever thing to do" and that it "is ludicrous to suggest that it refers to anything untoward."

Okay, that explains the word "trick". Now please explain the words "hide the decline."



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (335645)11/24/2009 5:54:48 PM
From: DMaA2 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793955
 
It's not ironic, it's outrageous.

The irony of this situation is that most of us expect science to be conducted in the open, without unpublished secret data, hidden agendas, and computer programs of dubious reliability. East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit might have avoided this snafu by publicly disclosing as much as possible at every step of the way.

Course if they had disclosed all their data and methods they would have been laughed right off the science stage.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (335645)11/24/2009 10:00:43 PM
From: KLP2 Recommendations  Respond to of 793955
 
Breaking in UK Scientist in climate change 'cover-up' storm told to quit

By David Derbyshire
Last updated at 12:02 AM on 25th November 2009

dailymail.co.uk

The scientist at the heart of the climate change scandal was under growing pressure to quit last night.

George Monbiot, a leading environmentalist, said Phil Jones should resign from the Climatic Research Unit over leaked emails that appear to show researchers suppressed scientific data.

More emails came to light yesterday, including one in which an American climatologist admitted it was a travesty that scientists could not explain a lack of global warming in recent years.

In another note, UK researchers dismissed the work of scientists challenging global warming as 'crap'.

Another appeared to call for pressure on the BBC after a reporter suggested that evidence for rising temperatures since 2001 was thin.

In one of the most damning messages, Professor Jones appeared to respond to the death of a climate sceptic with the words 'in an odd way this is cheering news!'.

The leak has been a huge embarrassment to the climate unit at the University of East Anglia, which is a global leader in its field.

Although there is no hint of evidence that climate change is not real, the emails appear to show researchers manipulating raw data and discussing how to dodge Freedom of Information requests.

Yesterday, Mr Monbiot, who writes on green issues, said the emails could scarcely be more damaging.

'I am now convinced that they are genuine, and I'm dismayed and deeply shaken,' he said. 'There are some messages that require no spin to make them look bad.

'There appears to be evidence of attempts to prevent scientific data from being released, and even to destroy material that was subject to a Freedom of Information request.
'Worse still, some of the emails suggest efforts to prevent the publication of work by climate sceptics, or to keep it out of a report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
'The head of the unit, Phil Jones, should now resign. Some of the data discussed in the emails should be re-analysed.'

Bob Ward, a climate expert at the London School of Economics and Political Science, demanded an independent inquiry.

'From what I've seen of the emails, there's not been any new questions raised about the way papers have been put together, but there should be an re-examination of the emails,' he said.
The emails - which appeared last week on a Russian website - appear to have been stolen from a university computer server.

i.dailymail.co.uk


Yesterday, Professor Jones refused to quit and denied that researchers had altered evidence to bolster the case for man-made climate change.

He added: 'We absolutely stand by the science we produce here at the University of East Anglia and it has been peer reviewed and published.

'Some of the emails probably had poorly chosen words and were sent in the heat of the moment, when I was frustrated. I do regret sending some of them. We've not deleted any emails or data here at CRU.

'I would never manipulate the data one bit - I would categorically deny that.' The university is to conduct an independent review of data security and on its response to 60 freedom of information requests over a short period.

? At least half the 36 UK officials and ministers travelling to the climate change talks in Copenhagen are going by air rather than by rail.

The Liberal Democrats said the arrangements showed up Labour's hypocrisy on green issues.

The Government said officials had meetings that limited their travel options next month.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (335645)11/25/2009 6:53:16 AM
From: Tom Clarke  Respond to of 793955
 
Googling around trying to find out who chairs the Environment Committee and came across this. These beliefs are so ingrained and embedded it's gonna be a battle royale. <g>

>>I'm particularly interested in following Barbara Boxer as she chairs the committee on the environment. This is women's work of which we can be proud. Lyssa Strada would definitely approve, noting that the word for "ecology" comes from the Greek for "housekeeping." Let's get out our skeins and knit this network into a protective cover for Gaia.

lyssa-strada.bloggyland.com



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (335645)11/25/2009 8:14:11 AM
From: Oral Roberts2 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793955
 
They better do some probing fast before The One signs us into some world wide climate deal that will cripple us for generations to come. He seems to be ignoring the fact that the whole damn thing appears to be a scam.