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To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (2878)	11/27/2009 9:51:33 PM
From: joseffy	Respond to of 23934

ACORN Document Dump: Trashed Documents Are Relevant to Investigation Nov. 27, 2009 biggovernment.com Have you heard the one about the pimp, prostitute, politician and the community organizer? Well, thanks to San Diego private investigator Derrick Roach, Californians are not laughing at what is turning into a political nightmare for California Attorney General Jerry Brown and ACORN. On Tuesday, November 24, Attorney General Brown appeared on KABC’s “Peter Tilden Show” after it was revealed that some 20,000 documents had been thrown into a National City dumpster by ACORN employees. The documents were thrown out in advance of state investigators arriving at the local ACORN office to conduct an investigation resulting from national media attention. ACORN employee Juan Carlos Vera was videotaped giving advice to two individuals posing as a pimp and a prostitute regarding underage prostitution and human smuggling. Without admitting any wrongdoing ACORN terminated Mr. Vera, or so they said. Documents provided to BigGovernment.com show that Mr. Vera was not terminated but was simply laid off, implying that Mr. Vera is also eligible for rehire. (The document also notes that Mr. Vera was laid off due to “restructuring” related to “videotaping incident.) Other documents provided to BigGovernment.com show that in the wake of the national scandal involving underage prostitution and human smuggling, ACORN employees were communicating with media, law enforcement and internally among ACORN offices as to how to develop a storyline that could explain the undercover videos taken of Mr. Vera. One of those documents with San Diego television station 10News is shown below: As a result of the undercover videos surfacing and the national media attention that followed, internal documents that were thrown in the trash and recovered by Derrick Roach reveal that ACORN was well aware that personal information for individuals who have applied for services and individuals on so-called “yes lists” needed to be secured under lock and key. Ironically, the only part of this tumultuous episode that may in fact be a joke is that California Attorney General Jerry Brown is running for governor, again. At age 71, California’s top cop and erstwhile Gov. Moonbeam might benefit from a refresher course in current law. Attorney General Brown cited a case from the 1960’s where items placed in the garbage were considered private; however, in 1988 the United States Supreme Court ruled in a case, California v. Greenwood, 486 U.S. 35 (1988), that there was no expectation of privacy when items are thrown in the garbage since it is common knowledge that plastic garbage bags are readily accessible to animals, children, scavengers, snoops, and other members of the public. As for the local National City ordinance prohibiting scavenging through garbage that the ACORN office and its supporters cite, that law was enacted in 1984 and was nullified by the United States Supreme Court ruling just four years later.

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (2878)	11/27/2009 9:58:48 PM
From: SmoothSail	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23934

OK - I've figured it out. Tiger was trying to get away from Elin who was swinging a golf club at him. She missed and hit a couple of windows causing him to hit the fire hydrant. He then accelerated still trying to get away from her, hitting the tree. The police arrived just in time to find her standing over the unconscious Tiger on the ground. Charges will be filed charging Tiger with failure to wear a seat belt and destroying public property. Think I could get a job with the National Enquirer?

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (2878)	11/27/2009 10:07:55 PM
From: joseffy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23934

Orange County Register : Jerry Brown Must Investigate ACORN Orange County Register Editorial November 27, 2009 Editorial: Jerry Brown vs. ACORN State AG should take allegations seriously. ocregister.com It might sound little cliché, but ACORN is the gift of controversy that keeps on giving. This time the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now is putting Jerry Brown, California's attorney general and likely gubernatorial candidate, in an awkward political position. Can you say Acorngate? Political activist Andrew Breitbart broke a story this week about ACORN, a national association of community organizers that claims to advocate for low-and-moderate-income people, on his Big Government blog. This time ACORN is accused of a massive document dump at its San Diego office. The discarded papers contain sensitive personal information about clients and employees, such as Social Security numbers, driver's license numbers, voided checks, tax returns, even credit reports. Other documents, according to Derrick Roach, the private investigator who retrieved the data, contained detailed information about how ACORN operates in California. The real story, though, is the timing of the disposal, which occurred six days before representatives from the Attorney General's Office visited the ACORN offices for their investigation into potentially illegal advice and misconduct captured on video by two activists posing as potential ACORN clients. The videos caused a national stir in September. If Mr. Brown is serious about returning to the governor's job, which he held from 1975-83, he will need to get serious about investigating ACORN. If he doesn't, it might cost him at the ballot box. The attorney general's office claims the investigation of the controversial ACORN videos is ongoing, but according to David Lagstein, Acorn's chief organizer in San Diego, the state's top law agency is in ACORN's corner. In a recorded speech he gave to the East [San Diego] County Democrat Club last month, Mr. Lagstein said that every bit of the communication he had with Mr. Brown's office suggests that the fault will be found with the activists who made the videos, not the people with ACORN. We hope this is not the case. Mr. Brown has proven that he can be a maverick and that he can, on occasion, espouse liberty-advancing principles. Here's an opportunity for Mr. Brown to demonstrate his independence as the top lawmaker in the state despite ACORN's assertions that he is in their corner. For an organization that purports to serve the needy and disadvantaged, ACORN has made a lot of serious blunders. At some point, enough is enough. Jerry Brown should display the political wherewithal to thoroughly investigate ACORN and prosecute where necessary.