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To: tejek who wrote (181288)	11/29/2009 3:47:35 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 362497

>>For some it is a temper tantrum. "If you don't do what I want, then I am not voting!!">> Yes, people have to vote. That is a temper tantrum. >>So you want him to ignore the 49% of Americans who want him to finish the job and do what the 39% want him to do. I am part of the 39% but I can understand his reluctance in going with the minority.>> In this case yes. One cannot fight a stupid war for political reasons. >>He's doing it exactly the way he said he would do it during the campaign. Why is that suddenly not good enough? No he isn't. He never spoke of leaving 50,000 troops there. Other than that it is hard to tell as we are getting no information on actual numbers of troops coming out of Iraq. He should be providing that. >>I am not sure what you mean by "running it through the middle class" but what more do liberals think he should have done with the banks? After all, under Obama, the gov't took an equity position in the banks the feds helped and the feds stand to reap billions of dollars if and when those shares improve in value which many have already done so.>> He gave the banks hundreds of billions of interest free money to save them and the economy and instead of loaning the money they invested it or are gambling with it again. Stiglitz, Krugman, Volker, Spitzer, Warren and others feel he should have given the money to the banks by supporting peoples loans and mortgages. That way the banks still get their money and the middle class still keeps their houses e.g. allow anyone to refinance up to 125% of loan to equity with new low interest rates. Refinance 1st and seconds. He not only did none of that he let the banks do what they want. And loaning money to suspect home owners is the last thng they want to do. Right now the feds have said veterans can refinance 100% and Wells Fargo says, no we will only refinace 85%. The banks are thumbing their noses at Obama. 4) And obama is not even giving the most basic help to the mortgage holders and small businesses regarding bank loans. In fact his appointee's have made it harder to get loans or refinance. Obama's measures have slowed the foreclosure rate considerably. In fact, inventory is now down to 7 months from a high of 11 months when the foreclosure mess was at its worse. As for lending, for the first time in a year, the banks are starting to lend money but I will admit their requirements are higher than they were before the economic debacle. Most would say that's a good thing. However, it does make for slow going. I am personally refinancing my home loan and so far have encountered little problem. I'll let you know if I get turned down. I am in the business Obama did nothing and I was and am shocked. The help with foreclosurs is coming from the fed lowering intterest rates. Banks have actually made it harder to get loans and refinance. 5) No prosecutions for either the torturers or the Wall street crowd who committed fraud. I agree...the torturers are getting away with murder and I was disappointed to read that we are still torturing apparently innocent Afghans. That is still a problem and his staff needs to investigate. As for the Wall Street crowd, I don't understand. The Madoffs are getting locked up...slowly but surely. 6) Technologically we are falling behind the rest of the world and especially in green technology. And Rome wasn't built in a day. Its going to take many years for us to catch up to the lost time under Bush. Having said that, things are happening. I was impressed that Tesla is talking about opening up a plant in S. CA. There is progress on other fronts......Ford is going completely green. The largest windmill farm in the world is going up in W. TX. A town in KS that was wiped out in a tornado is rebuilding completely green. So progress is getting made albeit slowly. We liberals do not know what to do? We know the right wing is barbaric, and we had such high hopes for obama. I repeat...Obama is the best president in decades. As a fellow liberal, I say ratchet down your expectations.....they are set way too high IMO.