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To: Patrick Slevin who wrote (27634)11/1/1997 6:27:00 PM
From: j g cordes  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 58727
 
Patrick, welcome aboard. We all pose questions and information to learn the perils of investing and trading. Thanks for your reply to the WSJ article.

Your point is, if I read you correctly, that any imaginary XYZ company stands on firm ethical ground if it writes calls or puts against its own shares without giving notice to the public? Is this essentially true?

Further, that if its done within the time frame of an annouced stock buyback... ".. says they will buy back 5 million dollars worth of stock. They go to Plaza and write 1000 puts, for example."

Lets expand the argument to see how unethical this could become.

First, when a company announces they are buying back shares, very often there is no announced floor price for purchase, no time schedule, and every excuse to not buy the shares if for example the price were to go up too much. Stock buybacks are often announced during times of stock price stress (falling), to support investor confidence... as seen this last Tuesday with IBM.

Let me ask you a hypothetical question. If IBM, for example and to fictionally make a point, knew on Monday that on Tuesday they would announce a massive stock repurchase, and also observed during the 550 point selloff that the 90 November puts were very high priced... went ahead and sold puts at close Monday or on the opening downdraft Tuesday, knowing they would announce the buyback 10:AM ... is that ethical? What if they waited to be sure the options were sold first, then said go ahead and make the announcement? What if they then bought the puts back for a huge profit Wednesday with the stock over 100 knowing they would suggest let say next week, that sales are average or just barely meeting expectations because of Asia.

Would this be manipulating insider knowledge to leverage quick profits that outsiders could never gain access to?

As this is purely hypothetical, what are your (or anyone else's opinion)?

thank you.




To: Patrick Slevin who wrote (27634)11/1/1997 10:59:00 PM
From: Heg Heg  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 58727
 
Patrick, do you know if there is a required or voluntary disclosure
about this? e.g. if i wanted to know which puts MSFT has written and
how many, could i find out somehow???

Thanks

Heg