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To: Sully- who wrote (75666)	12/2/2009 12:28:28 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 90947

I read it; it cited 2 people by name and no other identifiable external references. The 2 people cited didn't exactly commit themselves, either: Man, too, may be somewhat responsible for the cooling trend. The University of Wisconsin's Reid A. Bryson and other climatologists suggest that dust and other particles released into the atmosphere as a result of farming and fuel burning may be blocking more and more sunlight from reaching and heating the surface of the earth. Climatic Balance. Some scientists like Donald Oilman, chief of the National Weather Service's long-range-prediction group, think that the cooling trend may be only temporary. But all agree that vastly more information is needed about the major influences on the earth's climate. Well, ok, three people, they picked up a vague alarmist quote at the end but compared to skepticalscience.com and wmconnolley.org.uk , it's pretty light reading. As far as emotional attachment and "facts", I imagine you wouldn't particularly be amused by littlegreenfootballs.com , but I'll note it anyway.

To: Sully- who wrote (75666)	12/2/2009 12:53:57 PM
From: Win Smith	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

Just for amusement, on the somewhat ironic "reality based opinion" front, there's this pithy analysis: In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency. The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'' nytimes.com They showed us, that's for sure.