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To: cosmicforce who wrote (126343)	12/4/2009 3:03:56 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 543619

The party will be over in the sense that we built our lifestyle on having a sufficiency of oil to provide the energy to work, eat, and play, especially to play. For us in particular, that meant about 20.5 MPD, off the top of my head. Our consumption is down something like 2.5 MBPD from that point, and a whole lot of people ain't partyin' very heartily any more. Demand destruction. Meanwhile, China is trying to use what we left on the table. There are those who say the US has passed peak consumption, meaning either that, from now on we will always be remembering the good old daze, or that we will figure out how to do more with less and keep things chugging along. That means using less energy in buildings, using a lot less energy to move goods around, capturing waste and using it (co and tri-generation). It takes energy to grow; if oil consumption has peaked, we ain't gonna grow anymore unless we use the energy we get more efficiently and find other sources, like the sun. There is a lot less coal, gas, and uranium than people think. We're gonna have to turn our bombs into fuel in the relatively near future. Here's the resident optimist on U. I think the pessimists are saying '16. Meanwhile, everybody is building nukes. Doh!! Uranium supplies are likely to be adequate until 2020 theoildrum.com If China and India become the US, three countries will be using 2.25x the world's oil production. Just by ourselves.