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To: epicure who wrote (126437)	12/5/2009 1:34:50 PM
From: quehubo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542348

I am not a medical professional, but I have 30 years experience dealing with close relatives who are alcoholics, and have anxiety and depression. I read quite a bit and have spent more than my fair share of time talking to professionals how to deal with these relatives. I have seen many of these articles. You wont see big pharma pushing exercise over pill taking. biopsychiatry.com You have identified a problem though. People who teach their kids to allow others to influence how they feel about themselves. If you give someone else that power then you are doomed. Most of these behaviors are learned. Parents with bad genetics often provide a bad environment to grow up in. I grew up with two alcoholic parents, one of them had both parents drank themselves to death before age 50. I have seen what anti anxiety drugs do and what anti depressants do. People use them and they still dont learn to change their behavior. This is a huge part of the medical cost problem the nation has now. I wish much more money was spent on mental health issues teaching people better behavior skills than later on medical issues. But the medical / pharma interests are not going to push therapy.

To: epicure who wrote (126437)	12/6/2009 3:45:34 AM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542348

>>That's not to say some people can't 12 step it- but those folks fail a lot, and it's a pretty hefty religious commitment.<< B - While it's true that people in 12 step programs fail a lot, that is also true of every other treatment modality for drug addicts and alcoholics. As for the "religious commitment" idea, that's really a misconception. There is no religious commitment necessary for AA, NA, or any of the other 12 step programs. They are spiritual programs, not religious. There are plenty of agnostics and atheists in all of them. - Allen