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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (66249)12/5/2009 8:52:45 PM
From: koan  Respond to of 149317
 
I think we are in the same boat with Jon Stewart. Obama is either way ahead of us or way behind us-lol.



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (66249)12/6/2009 1:45:05 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 149317
 
‘Obama’s war’ in Afghanistan could be politically precarious

features.csmonitor.com

By Brad Knickerbocker

December 5, 2009

As 1,000 US marines launched a combat operation behind enemy lines dubbed “Cobra’s Anger” this weekend, it became clear that President Obama now “owns” the war in Afghanistan.

Though there was high symbolism of that fact in his speech at West Point Tuesday, Obama took control of the war months ago, escalating US military assets and aggressiveness in Afghanistan.

He’s more than doubled the number of US troops there since he took office. And as the Monitor’s Howard LaFranchi reported, he’s greatly increased the US commitment compared to NATO and other non-US forces.

At the same time, Obama has authorized an increase in the use of pilotless drone aircraft to strike targets — typically Al Qaeda and Taliban operatives — along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, according to a New York Times report.

NATO countries have pledged some 7,000 more troops for the Afghanistan mission. But the US, under the “surge” Obama announced this past week, will send more than four times that many additional forces. Perhaps just as significant, US soldiers and marines are concentrated in the most hotly-contested areas, where enemy Taliban activity is strongest.

It’s a high-risk situation, not least of all because of the logistical challenges. Unlike Iraq, Afghanistan is landlocked. It offers no easy access to the war zone for troops and equipment, which must be flown in or hauled overland through insecure mountain passes — starting from Pakistan, an uneasy ally with security and political problems of its own.

“The logistics nightmare will be one of the reasons Afghanistan will turn out to be President Barack Obama’s briar patch,” writes Melvin A. Goodman, who had a long career in the CIA, State Department, and US Army before becoming the national security and intelligence columnist for the liberal web site Truthout. “In many ways, the Obama blunder is even more tragic than Bush’s because the Afghan challenge is far more daunting than the one in Iraq and there are important domestic programs that will be held hostage to Obama’s war.”

As David Sanger of the New York Times notes, Obama’s Afghanistan surge differs from Bush’s surge in Iraq in another important way: There is no friendly and helpful local group willing to fight the enemy — nothing analogous to the “Awakening” movement in Iraq, “the movement by local Sunni tribes who rose up against extremists.”

How is “Obama’s war” playing politically back home?

For one thing, it’s stirred antiwar Democrats in Congress to press for an early debate on funding the war.

“Let us have this debate before he moves forward,” Rep. Jim McGovern (D) of Massachusetts told Politico. “I remember the debates on Iraq. Bush already had the troops there, and then we were debating. … I’d like it to be before we escalate one single American troop over there.”

Writing in the Wall Street Journal, Karl Rove (best known as Bush’s political mastermind) says “President Barack Obama’s speech [at West Point announcing the troop increase] deserves to be cheered” — a thumb in the eye to Obama’s liberal base, who find themselves on the outside looking in while Republicans and more conservative Democrats cheer the war escalation.

More broadly, Obama gets a slight majority of public support for his handling of the war in Afghanistan. Or as Frank Newport of the Gallup Poll puts it, “President Obama has managed to thread the needle with his newly announced Afghanistan strategy, with his approach winning the approval of a majority of both Democrats (58 percent) and Republicans (55 percent) in a USA Today/Gallup poll.”

At the same time, Jeffrey Jones (also of the Gallup organization) warns that “the unveiling of President Obama’s new military strategy for Afghanistan has not left Americans overly confident that it will succeed — 48 percent say the U.S. is certain or likely to achieve its goals in the war, while 45 percent say the U.S. is unlikely to do so or is certain not to achieve its aims.”

What’s more, Jones writes in a poll analysis, “There are a significant number of doubters even among those who support the new war policy. Among this group, 61 percent believe the U.S. is likely to achieve its goals, but 35 percent are pessimistic.”

In other words, Obama has a fair amount of public support for “his” war in Afghanistan. But given palpable public war weariness after eight years there, that could quickly erode if things do not go well with the troop buildup.



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (66249)12/6/2009 7:02:33 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 149317
 
What are We Fighting for in Afghanistan?
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By PAUL FITZGERALD and ELIZABETH GOULD

December 3, 2009 - It was the opportunity for the president of the United States to deliver his most important address yet. America was entering a new era after failing to defeat an implacable foe in a far off and forbidding land. His speech was filled with Sturm und Drang, delivered to the finest young men and women the country had to offer and the highest defense and intelligence officials in the land at the world’s most prestigious military academy. It should have been a sacred moment in American history.

For months the world had waited with great anticipation for the president to weigh in on America’s involvement in Afghanistan amidst a bitter debate over the respective consequences of investing more troops and further billions, and the very likely possibility that the United States could lose the war and be subjected to more merciless attacks by Al Qaeda. A varied mix of solutions were offered up, which included negotiating a peace deal with the Taliban, and, ultimately, withdrawing current troops.

Had the president leveled with the American people and talked about ethnic cleansing of Pashtun and Baluch tribal areas by Predator Drones, of Blackwater crimes and targeted assassinations, some might have breathed a sigh of relief. Instead the president weighed in with a well worn mantra by offering as his primary justification for sending more troops that “We did not ask for this fight.”

We did not ask for this fight?

For 60 years the United States played both Pakistan and Afghanistan against each other in a Manichean, dualist game of superpower politics with little regard for the consequences. But like the Soviet Union before it, the cold war assumptions of military power that the United States carried with it into Afghanistan have been rendered useless by the ethnic, political and military complexities of the Afghan/Pakistan region.

Before the United States can hope to win anything in Afghanistan it has to decide what it is fighting for. Is it oil, geostrategic positioning, against terror or just to save face. In the last few years U.S. strategy has broken down to a confused mix, dominated by those wishing to withdraw troops and limit the American commitment to containing Al Qaeda and those favoring a robust counterinsurgency campaign requiring a permanent political and military commitment that would last for decades.

General Stanley McChrystal, Obama’s new commander in Afghanistan, is well aware that nothing can be accomplished without a change in the psychology of the American approach, stating in his August 30 report, “Many describe the conflict in Afghanistan as a war of ideas,.. However, this is a ‘deeds-based’ information environment where perceptions derive from actions, such as how we interact with the population and how quickly things move. The key to changing perceptions lies in changing the underlying truths.”

McChrystal realizes that “changing the underlying truths” requires a change in the operational culture to “interact more closely with the population, and focus on operations that bring stability, while shielding them from insurgent violence, corruption, and coercion.”

But whether the very nature of America’s military/industrial/media/academic complex can be moved off its primary directive in order to accommodate McChrystal’s request, remains highly doubtful. The decentralized nature of the opposition in Afghanistan and Pakistan defies the very culture of the Pentagon’s thinking. Like Vietnam, a decentralized enemy is anathema to the rigid, high technology and high-cost Command, Control and Communications approach developed throughout the cold war to decapitate the centralized Soviet bureaucracy. But the Pentagon continues to insist on applying its expensive tools, regardless of its persistent failure to eliminate, let alone define its enemy.

General McChrystal will get 30,000 troops and 18 months to prove his counterinsurgency plan can work. The cost to the United States will be immense, especially to an economy already bled dry by 60 years of cold war and its attendant thinking. If it can establish security for both the Afghan and Pakistani people, somehow spare innocent civilians and roll back extremist terror, it might work. If it doesn’t, no troop escalation or elaborate counterinsurgency doctrine can save Washington’s political class from the fight it went out of its way to ask for.

*Paul Fitzgerald and Elizabeth Gould are authors of "Invisible History: Afghanistan's Untold Story," published by City Lights. They can be reached at invisiblehistory.com



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (66249)12/6/2009 10:22:40 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 149317
 
Obama's Afghanistan decision evokes LBJ's 1965 order on Vietnam buildup

dallasnews.com

By MICHAEL A. LINDENBERGER
The Dallas Morning News
Sunday, December 6, 2009

Hovering in the shadows of President Barack Obama's decision last week to ramp up the nation's war effort in Afghanistan, even as he promises to bring it to a swift conclusion, are ghosts of another decision, made 44 years ago by a Texan in the White House.

In 1965, Lyndon B. Johnson took ownership of a war he, like Obama, had inherited. Gen. William Westmoreland wanted more troops in Vietnam, and after a protracted debate within the White House, Johnson sent them.

Over the next three years, he would send hundreds of thousands more and launch a carpet-bombing campaign against North Vietnam. Johnson's presidency – and many argue, Johnson himself – were destroyed long before America could finally, 10 years later, quit Vietnam.

Obama's decision to send 30,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan has reawakened those memories of Vietnam's early days, and brought unsettling comparisons from an array of historians who have spent their careers studying Johnson.

"Iraq and Afghanistan stand in the shadow of Vietnam," said historian Robert Dallek, a Johnson biographer. "It becomes inescapable that people are going to have doubts and questions about the wisdom of trying to control so distant and foreign a place."

Many of those doubts, historians now know, were shared by Johnson himself, as revealed by White House tapes of telephone recordings released to historians over the years. Listening to them again this week chilled some of the men who know best what that decision cost Johnson.

"It was eerie," said historian Harry Middleton, a former Johnson White House aide who led the presidential library that bears Johnson's name in Austin for 30 years. "As these discussions are taking place this week, we can hear echoes of conversations from our past. ... I am quite fearful about it, as I do have the feeling that well, we've been down this path before."

That's a view shared by former Sen. George McGovern, whose stand against the Vietnam War helped him capture the 1972 Democratic nomination for president, only to lose badly to President Richard Nixon.

"I think this is a dreadful mistake on President's Obama's part," McGovern said. "It makes me sad. I am for him. I worked for him, and I still think he is a brilliant man. But it looks to me like Vietnam all over again."

Campaign issue

Johnson had campaigned in 1964 on a premise that Vietnam was not an American war, and ran decidedly to the left of hawkish Barry Goldwater. But immediately upon winning his first full term, pressure mounted to use the U.S. military more aggressively to support the struggling South Vietnamese government.

By early 1965, Westmoreland had requested more troops. Inside the White House, Johnson sought opinions from key officials and confidantes alike. Most were in favor of sending the troops, but some warned it was a fateful mistake, Middleton said.

"1965, when he decided to honor Gen. Westmoreland's request for a massive infusion of troops and to really change the mission of those troops from an advisory role to combat, he held a number of meetings in the weeks leading up to that decision, and solicited a number of points of view. ... Clark Gifford, a close friend of the president, said, 'We send in 100,000 troops, they'll match us with a hundred thousand of their own. I see nothing but catastrophe for our country.' "

Johnson was aware from the beginning how ruinous the decision could be for his presidency, historians said last week.

"Johnson did not make this decision casually or with kind of a flick of his wrist. He understood that putting in 100,000 troops in July of 1965 and then to continue to escalate in '66, '67, that these were big, important and decisive decisions of his administration and for the country," said Dallek, author of Hail to the Chief: The Making and Unmaking of American Presidents.

Still, the arguments against sending troops were drowned out by the prevailing Cold War-era fear of the global spread of communism.

"In the end, what was far more persuasive ... came from [Secretary of State] Dean Rusk," Middleton said. "Rusk said if we didn't go and we lost the war, then that was tantamount to World War III. That was tremendously persuasive to everyone there."

Rusk recalled those early debates in a 1969 oral history now stored at the LBJ Library.

"Not only would Southeast Asia be overrun, but the fidelity of the United States under its security treaties all over the world would be brought into question. In Asia we have treaties with Korea, Japan, the Republic of China, the Philippines, Thailand, Australia, New Zealand," he said. "If those who would become our enemies made the judgment that our participation in those treaties was merely a bluff, then those treaties would have no deterrent effect."

McGovern said he remembered those debates, too, from his perch as a freshman senator who had opposed the Vietnam involvement as early as 1963.

"That domino theory was a powerful factor," he said. "It has a kind of sweet logic to it. You look at a catastrophe in the making, but they say there will be an even bigger catastrophe. If we don't stop them there, then we're going to have to fight them in Taiwan, the Philippines, Hawaii, or New York or Dallas, Texas."

Parallels now

The arguments put Johnson in a corner, and he feared being seen as a president who lost a war, historians said.

"I'll tell you, the more that I stayed awake last night thinking of this thing, the more I think of it, I don't know – it looks like to me we're getting into another Korea," Johnson said in 1964 during a tape-recorded conversation with national security adviser McGeorge Bundy. "It just worries the hell out of me. I don't see what we can ever hope to get out of it, once we're committed."

McGovern, who campaigned hard for Johnson, said he had expected Johnson to pull back after gaining the presidency in his own right in 1964.

"I had thought President Johnson would probably stand firm until after the election, and then being a shrewd politician which he was and a highly intelligent man, he would figure out how to get us out of the situation. ... But I had some compassion for him, as I was sure he went through agony."

Obama went to great lengths last week to cast his decision to send more troops to Afghanistan in an entirely different light than Johnson's decision in 1965. Afghanistan is not Vietnam, Obama said in his address to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

Republicans generally praised the decision, both in Washington and elsewhere. Even Gov. Rick Perry, who would not even watch Obama's inauguration in January, told supporters in Dallas last week that Obama did the right thing. Texas has lost 48 troops in Afghanistan and nearby theaters, second only to California.

R. Nicholas Burns, U.S. ambassador to NATO and later undersecretary of state for political affairs for President George W. Bush, said Obama's decision was the right one, and said it triggered sighs of relief in foreign capitals throughout Asia and elsewhere.

"This is a major moment in his presidency. I imagine there is a lot of pressure on him because he knows these decisions write the history of his four years in office," Burns said. "Since the close of the second world war, this country has been the lone guarantee of stability in the world. ... We cannot shrink from our responsibilities because there is no other country on a global basis that can do what we do."

The fear factor

Professor George C. Edwards of Texas A&M University, founder and former director of the Center for Presidential Studies, also said Obama is right. Vietnam and Afghanistan are different, he said.

"If I was president, I would have made a decision to keep up the pressure there," he said. "I think there is less potential that the Taliban can put together a strong enough force that will cause us to send enormous numbers of troops. ... They can't engage in massive warfare, as the Vietnamese were able to."

Still, decisions about war are often made out of a kind of fear, Edwards said. Worries about the dominoes in Vietnam, for instance, or about the possibility of a nuclear-armed Saddam Hussein before the invasion of Iraq, or worries about terrorists seizing Pakistani weapons – all of these doomsday scenarios weigh heavily in favor of a president sending troops on a mission like the one in Afghanistan.

As president, "you are scared of it," Edwards said. "It's very tough to overcome that. ... It's a very tough situation for presidents. All of these decisions are made under conditions of great uncertainty."

Dallek says the risks of escalation are always enormous – for the country and for the president.

"History tells us that the only real decision a president has is whether to fire the first shot, so to speak. Once you get in there, you have our troops in there, and it becomes very hard to withdraw. Can you shut this down? Just walk away? No. it becomes an impossibility. In a sense, Obama is putting all his chips in."

Burns said he has faith in the generals fighting the war in Afghanistan, and in their counterinsurgency strategy. But if it doesn't work, he said, they and Obama will simply "have to find the courage and the wisdom to develop a new strategy that does."

McGovern sees in that an eerie echo of the war he opposed since he first was elected senator in 1962.

"We're headed down the same road," he said. "And [Obama] is not going to get out of there with only sending 30,000, and we are not going to come out in 2011. Two years from now, he's going to look up and say, 'Gosh we have lost 5,000 troops over there, we can't pull out now.' It's a no-win proposition. And in Afghanistan, nobody has ever been able to prevail in that deserted and mountainous country."



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (66249)12/6/2009 3:37:36 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
Pres. Obama: As we have spent $1 trillion on war, did Al Qaeda win?

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