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To: Tommaso who wrote (126238)	12/6/2009 9:07:58 PM
From: LoneClone	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206328

One last comment -- it occurs to me that this whole Climategate thing is the equivalent of the Piltdown Man affair. Although this was a hoax perpetrated by a scientist, the theory of evolution of man from apes stands unchallenged by those who use science as a guide rather than religion. When the hoax was unmasked there was much controversy and the anti-evolution crowd tried to use it as a weapon of debate, but no one even remembers it today unless they like me are a real science nerd. What I was reading while this occurred to me was an article about a study of aerial photographs of glaciers which showed that glacial coverage on the eastern slopes of the Canadian Rockies decreased 29% between 1985 and 2005, while the glaciers in BC shrank 'only' 11% during that period. (The article also points out that the current rate of melting vastly exceeds the rates at the end of the Little Ice Age 7000 years ago, or at the end of any other Ice Age for that matter.) It is going to get very interesting for the Canadian Prairies and American Southwest when in a few years there is little or no runoff from melting glaciers in the summer. Much agriculture will become impossible, and it won't be easy living there either. vancouversun.com OK, back to making money! LC

To: Tommaso who wrote (126238)	12/7/2009 12:52:41 PM
From: russet	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 206328

friendsofscience.org Hadley Climate Research Unit Hacked! CLIMATEGATE! The Hadley Climate Research Unit (CRU) computer system at the University of East Anglia in the UK was hacked and over a thousand sensitive emails and many important data files were made available on the internet. The emails show that the CRU scientists manipulated data to support the global warming agenda of the IPCC. The CRU provides a temperature index used by the IPCC and climate scientists. The Telegraph UK reports that the emails from some of the most prominent scientists pushing AGW theory suggest: "Conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more." See the Telegraph report here. See Climate Depot here. See "CRU has Apparently been Hacked – Hundreds of Files Released" from Watts Up With That here. See "Warmist conspiracy exposed?" from Heraldsun here. See "Leaked FOIA Files 62 mb of Gold" from The Air Vent here. See "Hadley CRU hacked with release of hundreds of docs and emails" from the Examiner here. See a listing of Climategate articles here. See a searchable dataset of the emails here. The entire set of hacked Hadley CRU files, containing > 60MB of documents and e-mails can be downloaded from here.