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To: quehubo who wrote (126576)	12/7/2009 10:03:27 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543012

They ARE good rules. They're practical and sensible, and without a deity or religious belief they remain so. The Golden Rule is found in almost all religions and most philosophies as well. THe problem arises when people claim ownership and insist that everyone respect their source as the true one or when they apply it only to their ingroup. The rule needs to be universally reciprocal to work, regardless of source. This doesn't happen when, e.g., Christians say that humanists or atheists can have no moral compass without some external absolute authority. The concept is dead on arrival with that kind of judgmental rating system.

To: quehubo who wrote (126576)	12/8/2009 11:49:00 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543012

<<<It does not matter where they came from. The same for the teachings from Sunday school. It could all be made up. But the concepts are very effective at providing a good living.>>> I agree that fairy tales and Santa Claus can serve to teach important lessons to the very young who may otherwise not understand but we label them as "fairy tales" and the "spirit" of Santa Claus. After a certain age, kids either "get it" or are told the truth. But perpetuating the "story" of the 10 Commandments and using it for clearly cross purposes (eg, Thou Shall no Kill" except in the case against people who disagree) is troubling. For grown ups to believe in preposterous "stories" is more than troubling. It borders on derangement.