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To: SARMAN who wrote (271841)	12/8/2009 2:17:24 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

A traitor is the one that puts Israel's interests before America's and that would be you, traitor, sore lose. Ok Sarman.. here's your chance to tell board why you hate Israelis (and Zionists) so much.. You live in America and Israel's never threatened America. Sure, there was the attack on the USS Liberty, but I blame the Israeli gov't of that time, not every friggin' Jew. Goldman Sachs? Hell, I hate them too, but they're not all-powerful. Hell, the US taxpayer had to bail them out, along with a bunch of other banks. Is it because they were organized enough to convince the British and French, AS WELL AS THE HASHIMITES, to let them carve a small chunk of land out of the rubble of the Ottoman Empire? Is it because you think Jews are "brothers of Apes and Pigs"? If you think Zionists are "traitors", you need to explain why, and how they are worse that all the other traitors who put their religious zealotry before their loyalty to the US Constitution (assuming they are US citizens). Myself, I really don't give a crap about Zionists. And even if there is a "Jewish Conspiracy" against the US, I don't see it being any different than the Communist Conspiracies, or the Jihadist Conspiracy, or even the White Supremist, or Black Separatist conspiracies. From my perspective, the only reason Israel merits my support is because they are a democracy. And I would support any other democracy in the same manner, even if I disagree with many of their internal policies (Turkey comes to mind). And that's why I can't support the Palestinians, or most other Arab regimes, except when their interests align with our own. They are not democratic, and most of them use this pathetic hatred for a few million Jews as an excuse for not pursuing political, social, and economic progress for the benefit of their people. I would be happy to see Arab and Jews living in peace with one another, but the biggest impediment to that is not the Jews, but the Arabs, IMO. As for the "Palestinians", or more appropriately, Arabs who resided in Palestine? They are the victims of their own neglectful and corrupt leadership. They had every chance to declare their own state in 1947. Yet, their leaders sold their people out and agreed to be annexed by Hashimites into the Kingdom of Jordan. It doesn't matter that the UN didn't recognize the annexation because the Palestinian people were amenable to being subjugated by a foreign ARAB sovereign from Mecca. Hell, the Hashimites despised the Palestinians and held them in very low regard, yet they surrendered their ONE CHANCE for statehood in exchange for perpetual hatred. So I'll be damned if I'm going to support statehood for their current government while they're threatening to wage war against the US and Europe. As some enlightened individual once stated.. The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. So, once again Sarman.. TELL US IN YOUR WORDS (as I did) WHY YOU HATE THE ZIONISTS SO BADLY. WHAT DID THEY EVER DO TO YOU?? Hawk