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To: quehubo who wrote (126632)	12/8/2009 9:37:04 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541992

Look- think about the prohibition model. When did we have gangs of thugs with machine guns running alcohol to secret clubs, and selling it on street corners? When it was illegal. Is there some incentive to avoid taxes? Sure. But the price is artificially inflated by illegality, really. As for people being late, fire them for that. You don't need to fire people for what they do on their own time- fore them for the problems they create on your time. Then you aren't in the job of moral nanny for other people.

To: quehubo who wrote (126632)	12/8/2009 11:41:57 AM
From: Katelew	Respond to of 541992

How about sell their product cheaper than the government? Yes, Que, I think folks are missing this aspect of the whole thing when they get excited about legalizing and taxing marijuana in CA. The estimates of potential sales tax revenue are pretty rosy. But the stuff is so easy to grow that I would expect a sizable cash (untaxed) black market to also grow. Policing this? It would probably cost as much to do it as the partial sales tax revenues that are flowing to the state. There's an enormous amount of uncollected sales tax revenue in the country, just as there is an enormous amount of uncollected income tax revenue. In fact the two go hand in hand of course. It's a problem of unreported sales.

To: quehubo who wrote (126632)	12/8/2009 11:45:54 AM
From: Cogito	Respond to of 541992

>>Does it really matter your volume of substance consumption if it is impacting your life negatively? - demonstrated low ambition and performance, - unable to avoid use when you know you can lose your job or not get one. In case of people I have terminated they were routinely late for work, and reported to work looking tired and spent. Drug screening at work is important in many positions where public safety is involved. As far as legalizing drugs to reduce crime, what do you think all these gang bangers and others in the distribution are going to do? How about sell their product cheaper than the government? How about other crimes? << Q - In no particular order, here are my responses to those points. No, the volume of consumption doesn't matter if it's impacting your life negatively. I would say that there are plenty of people who consume pot occasionally or even regularly, who do not do it to excess and for whom it has no negative effect. Yes, of course drug testing is important in jobs where public safety is concerned. I don't recall suggesting otherwise. I don't know what the gang bangers and other drug distributors would do if drugs were made legal. There might be a possibility that they could undercut the legitimate market prices. I don't see that as being anywhere near the major problem that illegal drug distribution is today. How much bootlegging of liquor goes on these days? Perhaps they would get involve in other crimes. They're already involved in other crimes in addition to drug dealing, aren't they? - Allen