To: KyrosL who wrote (71525 ) 12/8/2009 3:21:06 PM From: Maurice Winn 2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559 The old absence of evidence is evidence of absence argument - which is still false. Michael Jarraud, the secretary general of the international weather agency, speaking at a news conference at the climate talks in Copenhagen: <Addressing questions raised about the reliability of climate data after the unauthorized release of e-mail messages and files from a British climate research unit that provides data to the global weather group, he said there was no evidence that the various independent estimates showing a warming world were in doubt. > As they say, he would say that wouldn't he? They certainly aren't going to have a Climate Boiling jamboree and say that it's snowing in Houston in record amounts. Or that weather in NZ has been at record hideous depths last winter, with swine flu thrown in as a direct result of the cold and wet. Perhaps he hasn't heard of the emails provided by the Climate Research Unit from which the boss Phil Jones has been laid off pending an inquiry into his malfeasance. Nor that Ben Banter, Climatologist extraordinaire, wants to beat the crap out of Pat Michaels [a Global Boiling-Holocaust Denier] informationliberation.com In those emails, Boiling-Holocaust Deniers are denied peer review and access to publications, refused data and generally excommunicated after being sent to Coventry. So if they do have evidence of absence, that evidence is suppressed as intended as described in the emails. Funding for such investigators wouldn't get past the first funding hurdle which has a sign over it: "Are you a true, cross my heart and hope to die, Global Warm-Monger, willing to hunt any data proving its truth and ignore any bad weather which harms the environment or data base?" Mqurice