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To: Jane Hafker who wrote (9269)	11/2/1997 4:21:00 PM
From: hpeace	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Jane, this is what I'm saying. Your story about the Australian drinking music melody and the pastor that wasn't pleased is my point exactly. The beat/melody doesn't make a song good or bad. The lyrics and the motives of the artist either give a song light or darkness. They give out death or life. Paul's statement about "all things are good" and the treatise on should you eat meat from animals sacrificed to other idol's, and I believe that there was a prophet of God that addressed this issue with trees also. But, the pastor that didn't like your praise was really letting his flesh judge the song instead of his spirit. He may have been a boozser earlier in his life. He may have gotten drunk to that melody many times. His flesh associates evil with that melody. Maybe it's still in his soul . But, the Spirit of God doesn't recognize any of that. I've told people that earlier in life I had a street ministry and I would take a team to secular rock concerts and we would witness outside and in the concert. I've actually been told that I was sinning being in the concert where I could here the music. They associated secular rock with things in their past which they added sex and drug and depravity with secular rock because they use to combine them all before they were saved. Jesus got the same lecture when He spent time in taverns where drinking and harlots were. This isn't the same example but it explains that people ,good Christians can let their flesh and soul rule their reasoning instead of their spirit. I have no problem with Christians staying away from witnessing to drug addicts if it would tempt them being in that environment. Same with anything. I do have a problem with them saying I'm in sin going to a secular rock concert and handing out tracks and witnessing one on one to those there. When I'm around a Christian like that..I don't bring up the subject. By revelation knowledge I know you have a strong spirit of Praise in you. You may tend to be a purist in this area and this is good. I'm the same way in that I have no secular music in this house and my family and I have elected to never support or listen to secular music. Of course we have to take control of every thought since any movie or commercial is going to have secular music. We screen that out..BUT WE DON'T EXPECT ALL CHRISTIANS TO DO THIS AND WE DON'T JUDGE THEIR CHRISTIANITY IF THEY LISTEN TO BING CROSBY. You can drift off the path with anything. You can take the stock market off path, you can love golf so much that you couldn't lay it down, you could love skiing too much. God told me to destroy my secular music collection. I did. He told me to lay down bridge. I was a Grand Master duplicate bridge tournament player. I had played bridge since I was 6 or 7 or 8..decades. I just quit.just like that. There is no sin in playing bridge. God said lay it down and I did. You can drift off the path in music, in cards, in golf, and collecting food coupons. You can even be so religious that it's a sin the way you put form over just loving and serving HIM. NOT JUST MUSIC can get you off the path. To you ...drums and bass are a problem. I wouldn't listen to them if I were you. Paul talks about this in his treatise on meat sacrificed to idols. To your question "why can't we give up the beat" . every song has a beat, a time, a rhythm. I know this and I'm a music illiterate. Why can't we also give up all the beats??? You cannot give up the beat, it's in every song<gggg>. Why can't we give up organs?? No, it's all a personal preference in the area of music. The lyrics and the motives of the artist are what we should be concerned with. that's either light or dark. Music is already off the path. Secular music to me is off the path..but, I would never impose that strict of measure on anyone. There are those that think TV's are evil..fine.to them get rid of your TV. But, I watch Touch by an Angel on mine. To some Christians anything modern is a sin. They have no electricity, TV, any thing modern is out of their lives. I say praise God. I wouldn't belittle them at all. But, I think they are incorrect to judge me by those standards. You do realize that you are in sin by their standards by just being on this computer. Same with movies, etc. etc. So, to answer your question.NO!!!!!! you cannot give up the beat. The songs you sing have a beat/time/rhythm. And, the rock beat is just another rhythm to music and it's inert to being good or evil. I would encourage all to vary all their music. Don't just listen to one beat. But, music can be worship to deity, it can be about your relationship with God, or it can be about your Christian relationship with others. And, it definitely can use parables in it's words and style. And, parables can witness to the lost and also be of benefit to Christians too, else why do I study parables in scripture since I'm saved. But, if a rock beat is keeping you from God..lay it down just like I laid down Bridge. Be sure and remember that when you put that Christmas tree up this year you are erecting a temple to satan....at least that's what Christians have told me<ggg> God Bless