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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: one_less who wrote (81980)	12/14/2009 12:54:17 PM
From: LLCF	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

<Apparently you still think I am hiding or lying about some worldview allegiance,> That's because if ones word view doesn't fit into one of Pope Gregs neat little preconceived categories his brain goes berzerk as attempts to label one turn into wild eyed claims about ones logic and then, as we've seen over and over worse. Dialoge breaks down and turns into name calling, paranoid rants, change of discussion so tangential issues etc. in attempts to stuff person back into SOME category in HIS world view "heirarchy". Further there is no recognition that the shortcoming (his blow up) is of his own limitations and NOT the others. DAK

To: one_less who wrote (81980)	12/14/2009 12:54:46 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

<And of course YOURS is THE ONLY TRUE WAY. Free from all preconceptions, dogma and the possibility of corruption. Too bad you're not at liberty to share it with us.> "Flawed logic." On the contrary it's directly deduced from your statement. You are claiming that it's TRUE that all Mainstream systems are deeply flawed. You're also clearly implying (if not directly claiming) that your non systematic system is somehow exempt from all the problems associated with every other system and worldview and is therefore the ONLY WAY to TRULY understand the World around us. >>>"...conventional science, mainstream religion, or any mainstay worldview ..." No such category applies to me. Apparently you still think I am hiding or lying about some worldview allegiance, in spite of my assurances to the contrary. Too bad because it's blocking your vision. Jesus said: "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains." You claim to see that all the mainstream systems and worldviews are false and dangerous: don't you? Just because you refuse to give your worldview a label does not mean you don't have one. In fact those who think they have no preconceptions and dogmas are in my experience the most blindly intolerant, tolerant people one could ever hope to meet. This also brings to mind the question Dr Fraser Crane once asked a patient: "What color is the sky in your world?". Oh I forgot; it's a secret. shhhhhhhhhh! You might get labeled as one of those blue sky-ers. "There are none so blind as he who will not see" "Your comment/insinuation doesn't apply in my case. By the way, I suspect that finger has been pointed at you a few times..."And of course YOURS is THE ONLY TRUE WAY... Just a guess." Oh it applies to you all right. Unless you actually have no "way" and do not claim ANY "TRUTH" but as we have seen; that is not the case for you. By the way, It is Jesus who claimed to be "THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE"; Not me. Your argument is with Him. Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?" Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." (John 14:5-7) Now, if you were to be tortured to death and then rise again to life, three days later, I would probably give your claims more serious attention. As it is, you are just blowing smoke and hiding behind the clouds.