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To: marcos who wrote (71742)	12/15/2009 3:39:47 PM
From: Snowshoe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

re: AMZ.V in Brazil - Wasn't there a brouhaha in recent years where someone in the Brazilian government threatened to nationalize the phosphate resource?

To: marcos who wrote (71742)	12/15/2009 3:43:59 PM
From: Snowshoe	Respond to of 74559

Marcos, are you still on that slow dial-up connection? Elmat is stringing fiber in Angola, maybe you can ask him to stop by BC with his backhoe on his way home.

To: marcos who wrote (71742)	12/15/2009 4:06:22 PM
From: Gib Bogle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

If I did bring it up, it was inadvertent. I grabbed the first counter-example that came to mind (to the idea that we'll soon grow out of our chimp ways), and then after fingering the Germans I wanted to add, in fairness but also in strict objectivity, that such manifestations are actually latent in us all, hence the mention of the Jews. Many people seem to feel the need to defend their country, right or wrong. My sense of identification is more with a certain kind of person who can be found in any country (though not in large numbers), rather than with the place I was born. Yes, I've bought I few of those AMZ lottery tickets.

To: marcos who wrote (71742)	12/15/2009 7:33:30 PM
From: Maurice Winn	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Marcos, it's the same thing that leads people to cheer for a team of professional footie players. "Go Real Madrid = Hooray for Beckham. We are the champions over you loser English" who could only afford to hire some dodgy Brazilian second ranker. < what is it about this crew that leads a major slice of comment always in the direction of gratuitous nationalistic slur? ... could it be the brasilian influence, that fear of the broad, the diverse, the civilised? > The slurs are subdivided further so that Gib [a dinkum but barbarian Kiwi] slurs me [one of the civilized breed of Kiwi]. The subdivisions go all the way down the group sizes until we end up with a couple of people, or even just one arguing themself ... It's just our DNA [nature, not nurture though you can put a patina of civilization on most people with a bit of early childhood conditioning]. Gib did: <you did bring up the subject, turns out > and as you say, I couldn't leave his hideous barbarity sitting there unchallenged in case somebody mistakenly thought it a consensus in the same way that The Science is settled on Global Warming and that there is a worldwide consensus, when there isn't. Mqurice