To: one_less who wrote (66779 ) 12/15/2009 5:38:06 PM From: Mac Con Ulaidh Respond to of 149317 Which are those? Perhaps some native American tribes. maybe the Picts, who if story is true were quite peaceful. I'm not sure this is what you speak of, but there have been cultures and peoples and ways quite peaceful... and they were beat down and killed and wiped out and taken over by... more brutal peoples. The actual Brits, by readings, seem to have been rather peaceful and egaliatrian and women had power, then came the... others. not like Brits are actually Brit now. they are Norman and Saxon and etc. but that is like thinking of that drop of Pict blood I am sure resides within me... why are some of us just a lil bit different? but will we let that blood die out by simply letting slaughter insue? the Celts for all their warlike ways had far more rights for women than any Roman or Greek. in that way, my choice is simple. And the Celts just wanted some land to live on, yes? We talk of the wonderful Greeks and Romans, yet they wanted to rule the world and put everyone into their lil pegs and take money from them. i think I prefer a Celt, where a woman can rule and be a sage and inherit property. yes, Less, in ways I think we have been on a downward spiral through history. and to think that our American founders changed... well, it was mostly by accident, they didn't actually have a notion women or blacks (and black women) should or would be equal. we fought for that. we fought to regain what we had in other places. and what soem would now take away from us... that is the danger of the Taliban. the danger of the Christianist in this country and in Africa. and that is about power and rule, not religion or faith or country or people. it is simply about power. it is a dark, sad place that they live in. and frankly I think most white american men, at least those over 50, still live in. power over another... but that is also the power of the 'sacrifice' of Jesus that i think is mostly overlooked... he became nothing, no one, he became among the most low... no streets of gold, no power, nothing. he was willing, according to the story, to be as low as the theifs and the prostitutes. I babble on. babylon.