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To: Sully- who wrote (76057)	12/18/2009 2:41:03 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Weather Report: Copenhagen By: Greg Pollowitz Planet Gore The Gore Effect© strikes again: <<< Winter weather whips nation Copenhagen Post More snow could be on the way tomorrow as temperatures are set to drop even further Bitter cold and steady snowfall has paralyzed the country’s roads and public transport since yesterday, and the icy cold weather is expected to get even worse over the next couple days. On the island of Funen up to a metre of snow fell in some places, while in mid-Jutland several snow plows were reported to be stuck. National train service DSB had delays on nearly all its lines, with delays of up to an hour on some routes. The S-train system and Metro trains serving the Greater Copenhagen area have also experienced considerable delays. No serious injuries or deaths have been reported so far as a result of the icy weather, however. National weather centre DMI has forecast temperatures to drop to a chilly minus 6 by tomorrow evening, along with more snow possibly on the way. >>> planetgore.nationalreview.com

To: Sully- who wrote (76057)	12/18/2009 9:34:51 AM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Maybe not - Obama offers $33 billion per year in climate reparations Mugabe, Hugo, Evo - Obama agreed to pay you the money you demanded from the evil capitalists. "capitalism is the road to hell" - Chavez moonbattery.com ‘Capitalism is the worst enemy of humanity’; ‘climate debt’ due to Mother Earth; US must pay ‘trillions and trillions’ for damages algorelied.com Oh yeah, we're going to borrow much of the reparations from one of the same countries we'll be paying them to - namely China. Don't expect to hear much about this in the lamestream media. If they tell the public about this, people are going to be outraged. By Howard Richman & Raymond Richman As the UN Climate Control Conference comes to an end today, many issues remain to be negotiated, including the size of the emissions cuts and the future of the Kyoto treaty. But one issue has already been settled: the size of the reparations that the developed countries (United States, Europe, Japan, etc.) would pay to the developing countries (China, India, Africa, etc.) if the agreement is negotiated. The total reparations would be $30 billion per year in 2012, rising to $100 billion per year in 2020. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters yesterday that the United States would pay $10 billion of the $30 billion per year by 2012. Thus the U.S. share of the $100 billion by 2020 would be $33 billion per year. President Obama's huge expansion of the government debt has already brought the U.S. government close to bankruptcy and he is aware of the danger. ABC News reported on Wednesday: President Obama told ABC News' Charles Gibson in an interview that if Congress does not pass health care legislation that will bring down costs, the federal government "will go bankrupt." But there are even worse dangers in the agreement that is currently being negotiated. The broad outline is that the developed countries would agree to emissions cuts from 1990 levels ("emission reduction objectives") while the developing countries would agree to increase their carbon emissions, though at a reduced rate ("substantial deviation in emissions"). The predictable result of this difference would be that energy costs in the developed countries would skyrocket relative to energy costs in the developing countries. The only way that developed countries could be able to keep their energy-requiring industries competitive would be by imposing border adjustments (tariffs and export subsidies) to equalize energy costs. Meanwhile, China is insisting that the Copenhagen agreement prohibit border adjustments by the developed countries. According to a report on Wednesday from Bloomberg.com: In Copenhagen, the latest version of a proposed treaty includes language banning developed countries from ‘‘resorting'' to climate-related trade measures is printed in brackets, meaning it lacks consensus agreement and must be dealt with by higher-level negotiators from 193 countries. This particular issue is key to the future of the United States economy. Without border adjustments (both tariffs and export subsidies) American industry would become less and less competitive. The U.S. trade balance would continue to deteriorate, and an eventual dollar crash would impoverish the American people and force an American retreat from the world stage. On the other hand, this issue is also key to the future of the Communist government of China. If border adjustments are prohibited, the western democracies would prove, by their deteriorating economies, that they were unable to elect competent leadership. The threat of a Chinese democratic revolution would recede. It is clear that the agreement currently being negotiated in Copenhagen could be a disaster for the American economy. The reparations could force our government into a high interest rate and high inflation bankruptcy. Alternatively, the high cost of energy without border adjustments could cause the loss of energy-requiring industries, leading to a high interest rate and high inflation dollar crash. In either case, we could be heading toward an economic disaster. Fortunately, there is still a chance that no agreement will emerge at the end of today's negotiations. Many thorny issues remain to be negotiated. Even if an agreement emerges, there is a strong chance that Congress would reject any agreement that would destroy America's economic future. But President Obama is already planning on how he will get congressional approval. He does not have the 2/3 vote in the Senate needed to ratify a climate "treaty," so he would not call this agreement a "treaty". Instead, he would threaten draconian regulation of carbon dioxide by his EPA under the "Clean Air Act" in order to force Congress to enact this treaty's provisions. americanthinker.com Message 26186909