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To: Alan Smithee who wrote (3023)	12/19/2009 1:48:32 PM
From: X Y Zebra	Respond to of 23934

indeed... better than one day late and... many dollars short. :)

To: Alan Smithee who wrote (3023)	12/19/2009 3:49:56 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23934

I love being able to vote on moveon.org stuff. I vote that they should oppose a bill that doesn't include a public option. I think any bill that gets passed will be the foot in the door for more socialist crap. I think the dems would be fools to not pass whatever they can, so the more infighting by liberals the better. Dear MoveOn member, Senate Democrats announced this morning that they have 60 votes to pass a health care bill.1 As previously reported, the Senate bill will not include a public health insurance option, nor will it expand Medicare to cover more people. This is incredibly frustrating, and we'll fight tooth and nail to make the legislation better in negotiations between the House and Senate to produce a final bill. But meanwhile, we want to know: if this is what the final health care bill ends up looking like, should MoveOn support it? One the one hand, it would extend health care coverage to tens of millions of people who desperately need it. It would expand Medicaid for the poor, provide subsidies to help many more uninsured people purchase coverage, and create health insurance exchanges where they'd get cheaper rates by banding together. And it'd make it a lot harder for insurance companies to refuse coverage due to pre-existing conditions, and drop people because they get sick.2 On the other hand, without a public option to compete with private plans, insurance companies wouldn't face pressure to keep costs down. Uninsured people would have no choice but to buy coverage from the private insurers. Even with the subsidies, it'd still be expensive or unaffordable for many. And insurance companies would probably still find ways to discriminate in who they cover. President Obama praised the Senate announcement today, saying that we're "on the cusp of making health care reform a reality."3 And progressive senators appear ready to reluctantly vote yes because of the people the bill would cover and the insurance reforms it contains—and in order to overcome an expected Republican filibuster. But other progressive leaders have said that without the public option and without any expansion of Medicare, this bill is unacceptable. Earlier this week, Howard Dean called it "the collapse of health care reform in the United States Senate," and said "Honestly, the best thing to do right now is kill the Senate bill."4 So again, the question is: if this is what the final health care bill ends up looking like, what should MoveOn do? Click to let us know: MoveOn should definitely oppose a bill like this. MoveOn should probably oppose a bill like this. MoveOn should probably support a bill like this. MoveOn should definitely support a bill like this. I'm not sure. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. –Justin, Kat, Nita, Carrie and the rest of the team