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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (27308)	12/20/2009 10:32:40 AM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36921

I think anyone with a functioning brain would fast come to the conclusion the global warming cabal is fibbing. "For it appears that neither of us knows any thing beautiful or good: but he indeed not knowing, thinks that he knows something; but I, as I do not know any thing, neither do I think that I know. Hence in this trifling particular I appear to be wiser than him, because I do not think that I know things which I do not know." Socrates

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (27308)	12/20/2009 7:41:20 PM
From: Maurice Winn	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36921

Alastair, if I had to guess what has happened to global temperatures from facts I know to be true, I'd guess they have decreased. The reason I doubt my own senses is that they are limited to where I have happened to be at any particular time. I prefer to believe thermometers and more comprehensive data than I have from personal experience. But given the lies from the Climate Change true believers, it will take a bit to convince me that my senses are wrong and they are right. Objective data is much better than my subjective experience, but in the absence of reliable objective data, I'll stick with my experience. <"They indicate that the real evidence is that global temperatures have actually been in a downward trend since the 1960’s", I don't think that anyone with a functioning brain believes that. > The pecking order of scientific validity is [from worst to best] 1....True believer faith 2....Subjective experience [what seems true to individuals] 3....Objective measurement [reproducible, repeatable] The Warm-mongers pretended to be the third variety, but they are obviously the first, but even worse than the first in that they also add deceit to their repertoire. Their objective is clearly to get the loot and to push an ideological Gaia barrow, not to ascertain what's really going on. Mqurice